bots are a stupid meta

[OuterChimp]

There aren't any bots on Teal.

[Zarakk]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My memories of EverQuest back in the 90s and early 2000s was not a bunch of care bears who were worried about offending someone, and who would respect people's camps and wishes. My experience was a ton of cutthroat hormonal teenage psychopaths intentionally training, regularly KS'ing, sniping raid mobs, ninja looting, griefing etc.
carebear shit.

Very interesting. But this was not the reality for many of us.

My memories of EQ back in the year 2000 was generally of decent players who did respect camps, didn't train or KS or ninja loot or any of that other anti-social BS. The Play Nice Policy was very much in force with Verant (as they were called at the time).

Now of course there were some anti-social idiots who did behave as you describe, absolutely, but they were the small (if loud) self-important minority. These folks tended to get petitioned of course, and would get little holidays from the GMs. I was one of those who petitioned folks like that, and back then, GMs would often respond and appear in person at the camp and take action swiftly.

Most of us appreciated it.

Not that the above has anything to do with shared accounts, mind you.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P.S. I do wish our P99 rules were more classic, but only in one respeect:

Sirken renamed my toon from ‘aaaaa’ to ‘Aaaba’ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Duik]

On live i had a Gnome Paladin called Gnonads. Got a msg to change it. So as a smartarse i chose Gnowm. They allowed it.

At 20 I chose a surname.

Gnowm Deplume was born.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I actually agree with this aside from the fact that in order for this sentiment to be accurate they need to also get rid of PNP.

My memories of EverQuest back in the 90s and early 2000s was not a bunch of care bears who were worried about offending someone, and who would respect people's camps and wishes. My experience was a ton of cutthroat hormonal teenage psychopaths intentionally training, regularly KS'ing, sniping raid mobs, ninja looting, griefing etc.

Because of the PNP none of that exists. Is that a bad thing? Sometimes, yes. Overall? I don't know, I wasn't around during the early days of P99. But it kind of irks me when people are like such and such is so hardcore and then comparing to the olden days.
In the olden days I don't care that your guild mate told your other other guild mate who told you that you guys could indefinitely hold a camp around the clock by passing it off to each other every few hours. My group is coming in and taking this camp that y'all have been AFK farming for days now.
If you have a problem with it then bring more players and we'll DPS race. Sike, I'll actually just FD pull the entire zone on you and then do it again when you try to drag your corpse.

To me that was hardcore EverQuest. This ain't it. Even on TLPs I've seen the best guilds on the entire server who are way more coordinated than any thing I've witnessed on P99 get sniped by third rate guilds who just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

Doing something like that on P99 would get that guild banned. This is not hardcore. This is carebear shit.

This was quellious. PNP meant group level, because it wasn't cool to grief people grinding. If you did grief a group grinding, usually the whole guild of one member or another would come to chase the evil doers.

Raiding was ffa.

So how did it even work? My radical theory is, if you were to simulate link deaths and lag spikes and zone crashes as they occurred during the first 4 years, you would find -- at last! -- the genuine gameplay of classic.

I can't imagine a guild relying on a single char training a zone, for example. That's a crash and a LD, and some follow on LD's followed by a wipe.

In live if you zoned your entire raid into PoF at once, you crashed the zone.

Also, when Kunark was first released you had to camp out and back in in sebilis cuz you aggrod stuff when you went past the first door.

Add "bugs" and you also get the original gameplay. But this game can't fail in 2025, and so a bard can kite all day. Using a steam deck.

[zelld52]

i was real happy when i migrated to p99 from other EQEmus a few years back, because the tunnel was active and the raid scene was active and competitive.

then i spent a little time raiding and realized theres either warm bodies who arent fun to play with because they are seemingly AFK the whole time

and tryhards who have 8 level 60s and swap back and forth during raids, gearing up their 3rd monk.

back when i played between 2000-2003/4, people had one toon. and they spent their entire time invested in the game on the one toon. and if they didnt spend the time learning their class they quit by level 30.

Nowadays its people who get carried to 60 and sit AFK on raids to collect DKP and people who just cant give this game up.

(Im a part of the latter camp)

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i was real happy when i migrated to p99 from other EQEmus a few years back

now it's all about THJ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

now it's all about THJ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ugh i cant lie i saw nearly 5k players and it really intrigued me. but im also a sucker for "legit" eq. i like the grind

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ugh i cant lie i saw nearly 5k players and it really intrigued me. but im also a sucker for "legit" eq. i like the grind

oh there is plenty of grind on THJ, it will make you think on much larger scales

it'll seem easy then all of a sudden it wont

[Solist]

Bots are a stupid meta?

Man having one main, in early kunark, and it is parked and bound at trakanon. That was a stupid meta.