Epics Reworked

[Jimjam]

Imo it should be a fire made of swords instead.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imo it should be a fire made of swords instead.

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Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

also deity based epics

Sorry Stormlord, you'll just get a bunch of rain procs.

would be cool to see a full on mod where based on your diety, youd get gear that had clickies and stats, that made the same class but different different diety, play as different as two different talent tree's in world of warcraft!

Like Innoruk warrior has more burst DPS ability clickies on its items and short term self haste clickies to up the dps. But with Less AC

And a idk Tunare warrior uses flowers for weapons instead of swords they proc charisma buffs. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

mages having nothing but coth was a bad idea

Different versions of Highsun really should have been in the mage spellbook, the earliest stripping one buff and sending the target X distance away from the caster, in the direction faced, and the final version being similar to the bard song. It would've tied in thematically. Mobilize allies (coth, summon pet), banish enemies (highsun), extract self (gate).

It always seemed strange that mage epic pet wasn't an all-in-one elemental and why mages weren't allowed to take direct control of it, being able to swap perspectives at any time. From a roleplay perspective, it would make sense. If nothing else, that would have also helped with pathing issues in specific zones.

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It just sucks that VOG is better. In my opinion speed of the shissar should never have existed as nobody cares about 40agi and 12ac. The stick click should be VOG.

That seemed to be a major point of contention.

https://web.archive.org/web/20030514...icID=232.topic

Tain Sumnr
Elementalist
Posts: 147
(9/14/02 4:14:16 pm)
Reply Re: Epic Pet?

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enchanter- there are alot of people who want VoG instead of SoS. A spell replaced their epic effect--which is all that makes epics good...there are MANY items that have equal or greater stats.

[Jimjam]

also deity based epics

Sorry Stormlord, you'll just get a bunch of rain procs.

[Ciderpress]

Change shaman epic to be not so easily cheeseable via faction manipulation. Make black fur boots clickable on other players.

Also change rogue epic so you don't have to just repeat like half the quest to get the HE mask

[kjs86z2]

enc epic should be group VoG click

[Rygar]

Imo they screwed themselves making it a weapon for melee. They knew they would be improving things in expansions and eventually become obsolete. Monk is the only exception really.

[Pootle]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imo they screwed themselves making it a weapon for melee. They knew they would be improving things in expansions and eventually become obsolete. Monk is the only exception really.

They pretty much had to be weapons.

One of the main points of the epic is that it is a visual item that people can see you are holding.

[Foxplay]

Bard: Nothing Epic is pretty much perfect
Cleric: Nothing Epic is easily the most useful epic in the game.
Druid: add second epic- 1hb Staff (Nature Walker's branch) with clicky Chloroblast with 10 second cast
Shaman: Nothing epic is in a good state
Rogue: Add a unresistable aggro reduce proc, make it range slot usable (again)
Necromancer: Add Minion of Hate focus effect
Wizard: Nothing good epic
Magician: Make the Epic pet have slightly better stats, And make Innoruuk 2.0 drop the Earth Staff
Enchanter: Make SoS buff also regen 5hp per tick (Cause snake blood? and still stack with other types of regen) Giving enchanters a unique buff other than their normal haste spells
Ranger: Earthcaller is great but Swiftwind should be a 100hp bow with great resists, ratio and the Swiftwind (Worn) effect, And a clicky arrow summon (Swiftbolt) 5 damage,100 range arrow stack with a non god awful cast time
Paladin: Ratio increase ??, +25 Damage vs. Undead, Change proc to be a Self only rune for 200 that deals 25 damage back to attackers while its active (stacks with other dmg shields) called (Fiery Defense)
Shadowknight: Ratio Increase ??, add 3mana per tick to Soul Consumption proc
Warrior: Red 1h- Ratio increase 14/22 Increase hate gen to 750 / Blue 1h- Ratio increase 14/22 / 2hander Ratio increase?? Increase hate gen to 1000 / ++Make BOC have Enraging blow
Monk: Nothing this epic is fine but make the particle effect happen all the time even when you have weapons equiped

[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

enc epic should be group VoG click

Yes or regeant free rune v or a long duration dictate or something.

A haste that people sometimes click off to get vog instead is probably not the best thing it could have had