Wizard fix

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not saying it’s bad to do that stuff as a wizard, but thanks for the sarcasm. I’m saying there’s no need to take a wizard in the group just because they can do those things since you can already cover that utility with way more useful classes. Unfortunately wizards were just structured in a way that didn’t work well for the way people played the game (which was different from how the devs thought they’d play it).

No, the unfortunate thing is that people perpetuate this kind of thinking which keeps some classes out of groups. This game is EASY. There's a walkthrough for everything. The most fun I've had in this game has been when playing janky group compositions, and yes, that requires some level of competence using your class to the best of its ability. But go ahead and min-max. Wizards don't need fixing.

[Master Roshi]

I am a great wizard, I pull, snare, root CC and rend robe dps. That being said, unless people know you, you often get the "meh" from most groups initially.

Wizzys really need their epic and a good nuke clicky to be viable in a group setting. But remember, once you can quad you don't need a group.


edit: To the point of un-classic changes, I always felt Wizzys should have got a DMF type spell, but more-so It would give Lev, see-invis, Mana regen, and CR/FR.

[Ravager]

Yeah. It's too bad that they can't gather a bunch of people together and take them to cash camps and high zem dungeons.

[Jibartik]

No. Give wizards an AR-15

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. Give wizards an AR-15

duel wield ar17s

[Kiithsa]

Don't get me started....

Wizards are mostly fine as they are, the only thing I would change is either make nukes bigger or more mana efficient, or both. The reason groups don't take wizards is b/c most people that play them are lazy.

You can't just DPS, you need to find ways to contribute. One of my favorite things is to watch the puller bring in 3-4 mobs and then snare them all, run them around and root park. Watch for healers and gaters, wizards are great at preventing mobs from casting. Don't just nuke everything, be opportunistic, wait for a chance to delete a mob that is giving the group trouble.

Things like that, if you're relying on nukes alone you're doing it wrong.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Kiithsa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't get me started....

Wizards are mostly fine as they are, the only thing I would change is either make nukes bigger or more mana efficient, or both. The reason groups don't take wizards is b/c most people that play them are lazy.

You can't just DPS, you need to find ways to contribute. One of my favorite things is to watch the puller bring in 3-4 mobs and then snare them all, run them around and root park. Watch for healers and gaters, wizards are great at preventing mobs from casting. Don't just nuke everything, be opportunistic, wait for a chance to delete a mob that is giving the group trouble.

Things like that, if you're relying on nukes alone you're doing it wrong.

Hell, you can do all this and med while pulling with an eye. The drop down in the hole after the swim in entry is great for this. Bash can miss (especially with an SKs skills!) so having redundancy on stuns is good.

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by Kiithsa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reason groups don't take wizards is b/c most people that play them are lazy.

I played a wizard, I wasn't lazy and even I can tell a huge difference on what I brought to a group. If I wanted efficiency, I'd take a Magician over a Wizard every day and twice on Sunday. I'd even argue a Magician without a pet is worth more to a group than a Wizard.

[ReoDobbs]

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd even argue a Magician without a pet is worth more to a group than a Wizard.

Just stop

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I played a wizard, I wasn't lazy and even I can tell a huge difference on what I brought to a group. If I wanted efficiency, I'd take a Magician over a Wizard every day and twice on Sunday. I'd even argue a Magician without a pet is worth more to a group than a Wizard.

Why would you argue that? Doing a lot of grouping in lavastorm with melee that haven't saved up for a magic weapon yet?