Quick bard question before I dump 1000+ bone chips on her.

[Xap]

I would just keep a Crude stein, +7 CHA wrists and a Squad ring (misty guards) in your bag for when you need them. That cheap (like under 50pp set) will give you a +34 CHA boost. Put the points in STA/STR and DEX.

[Amyas]

Dex/STA/CHA

[Legidias]

You dont need dex at all as a bard, other classes might care about fizzles, but we have 0 recast time and no mana cost so idgaf if missed notes.

Pure CHA gear is cheap (relatively). Kobold crown is like +30 cha for usually 200-400p.

STA all the way.

[Legidias]

Why do you keep goin back to dex lol. Its the most worthless out of the four options.

[Legidias]

Not to mention free 80 hp to any melee class is always good. How much do you think a +80 hp option on an item would make it worth?

EQ stats arent about significant 1 single item boosts for the most part, its about cumulative shits from a ton of sources.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by MiRo2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe on how you play your bard. Personally the only time I find my self needing buffs on my bard is during a couple VP fights, or difficult duo/trio content. That's a difference of 2600hp and 4400hp, that I need for about 10% of what I actually do on my bard, the other 90% it literally couldn't matter less what my max hp is. That encompasses VP, all velious targets, group content, solo content, farming, and PvP.

This is just not true.

Originally Posted by MiRo2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not dumping creation points in STA doesn't make or break your character.

This might be true... However, STA is the only useful stat to put starting points into, which answers the question that was asked. Your opinions don't really contribute to the conversation and might be confusing for someone who is just starting or new to raiding.

[Legidias]

The arguement that small accruement of hp from w/e source is negligible comapare to a big differeence (50hp from an earring or starter stats vs total hp diff of like 2600 to 4400) is stupid and doesnt work in EQ.

Try applying this logic to a war or knight class. Sure 50 hp isnt as significant as say a 1k hp difference, but theres a reason you hog as much +hp gains as possible even when its only like +20 or +40 hp. This game is based on building up stats from multiple sources so its stupid to only look at a single source of hp (in this example) and say its "worthless" when at 60 it gives like +50 hp.

And back to original topic of what the best starter stat is, to tide you through levelling up to 60 (cause starter stats are so important when youre raid geared and buff, you know?) is going to be mostly STA / some STR simply to live longer while levelling and be able to carry plate armor as an inherently low str class. If you can afford WR bags, ignore str altogether and get only sta because its the only stat that actually helps you out early - mid game of the ones you can dump.

Even if you want to take the negative approach and say how stats in general dont matter to a bard (which, yes they do matter), then simply go through which ones matter the very least and eliminate them.

Cha helps lulls, but it really shouldnt have much impact if youre lulling at a lower lvl vs other lower lvl mobs. By the time you actually need high CHA to lull youll have CHA gear up the ass.

Dex / agi is worthless

Int? lol

[Pindrought]

Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dex / agi is worthless

wut

[indiscriminate_hater]

Jesus, lots of bad information in this thread. Most people posting have either never played a bard or have stopped after swarm kiting becomes hard at 55.

The most important stat is DEX, since, aside from twisting songs, the most important job a bard has is generating weapon procs. I usually finding myself starting a fight with double tash sticks so that the shaman can pull off a critical slow.

CHA is very easy to come by with gear, and you usually only need that in situations when you're charming - i.e. when you probably don't need the other stats. STA is always useful but the group utility lost between you eating 60 more hp worth of aoe and your tank eating extra rounds of mobs quadding in the 250s is huge.

Put 20 into DEX and 5 into STA and don't look back.

[MiRo2]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The most important stat is DEX, since, aside from twisting songs, the most important job a bard has is generating weapon procs.

If only bard stacking worked here like it did on live, DEX would be the be all end all for bards.