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[heartbrand]

as someone who was in Nihilum during classic and actually played here, Nihilum got destroyed in mass pvp by Holocaust before, during, and after the ban.

[Ragnaros]

yes please tell me more about how you lost pvp and had to exploit dragons due to low morale and got banned and then joined the opposition for 2 years
hehehe

[Uuruk]

Guess Ragnaros best play here is to talk about the old times. I hear the guild he is in now has raided uncontested for 4 months and can't get past Vyemm.


How does that even happen?

[Nirgon]

It would seem their warriors are not geared enough yet? Or they are having issues with tank swaps and a lack of dps should they correct those issues.

I think they just run out of time raiding every night before they get to him?

Gains seem OK from them every week otherwise.

[Uuruk]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It would seem their warriors are not geared enough yet? Or they are having issues with tank swaps and a lack of dps should they correct those issues.

I think they just run out of time raiding every night before they get to him?

Gains seem OK from them every week otherwise.

So are you saying its a pulling department issue? Empire killed Vyemm week 1 with Kunark geared tanks. These guys had 7 months of Velious before Empire quit.

[deadlycupcakez]

Originally Posted by Uuruk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So are you saying its a pulling department issue? Empire killed Vyemm week 1 with Kunark geared tanks. These guys had 7 months of Velious before Empire quit.

How long did it take after the buff to vyemm

[dis_mornin]

Originally Posted by deadlycupcakez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How long did it take after the buff to vyemm

3 weeks. Next question.

[Uuruk]

Originally Posted by deadlycupcakez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How long did it take after the buff to vyemm

He was broke after the buff? Next question

[Nirgon]

I think more gear always helps, just not as much as class optimization and execution.

I am not on their raids so I am not even sure why they are having any trouble.

I would hope Chiggen could impart his knowledge of pulling ToV and straighten all of this out. I did enjoy catching up with Chiggen again on my brief return, I don't think the guy really got a fair shake but he does have Vulak items so maybe he did.

[Redi]

What a stupid thread