Go back to the way things were

[BillyCranston]

The people posting on these topics and the forums and general are the reason this entire community doesn't deserve a fucking thing.

"People complaining about not enough raid mobs/"fair" raid rules for a game that's 13 years old and pre-dates WoW and 99% of what's in WoW? Let me throw around a bunch of wow and instance bullshit, because I'm retarded and never learned how to play with others or anything else from my alcoholic piece of shit parents"

Yeah no, totally, between 200+ people raiding once a week for one or two targets at most each week is what "raiders" should expect. I mean after all, Classic EQ makes up about 1% of the raiding mechanics from all MMOs over time, we should keep those outdated mechanics so that the server feels "classic" aka, like shit.

Keep it up, everyone. You're the kind of cesspool that honestly needs to see the entire EQEmu project shut down, so you can get off your fat fucking lazy ignorant asses, and do even half of what the people putting this dog and pony show on have done. Shut the fuck up already. Sorry P99 crew, but your "classic or bust" mentality when it comes to raiding is bullshit, it has been for years here, it's just now catching up with you. Shutting down the entire raid scene is doing anything except making you all look like people who have let the inmates take over the asylum. Get a fucking grip already and lay down the law, otherwise, you and this entire project is doomed for disaster. It's already been two+ years on Kunark, anyone who really believes in a REMOTELY 'classic' timeline is laughing. Not at the lack of Velious, or XYZ hotfix, but at the utter lack of running this place. Have some balls, tell people what the fucking deal is, and have them accept it, or start their own fucking emulated Everquest project. Honestly if I had the time or dedication to research and redo a bunch of Titanium shit into classic EQ timelines, or a team to do it with, I'd be all for it; I also wouldn't put up with a bunch of pieces of shit who think they're entitled to bitch and moan instead of objectively help and contribute. Sorry, but that is NOT what is going on here anymore, people just whine and then GMs and the staff cater to the whiners. This is just a fucking publicity stunt at this point, from both sides, P99 staff and devs and the community both.

Anyone who wanted to experience what "classic" raiding felt like, aka, PvE "competition" (let's be honest here, all of you neckbeards are calling getting to the target first competition, that's just having enough people with less of a life than <insert other guild(s) here at the given moment>, should have been around when classic PvE competition was relevant. I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks that any guild, 14 years later, shouldn't be able to form up, and zone into Fear, THEIR Fear, and have to do a zone break in, in order to get through all that trash, to finally pull CT, etc etc, is a piece of shit whiner. "No no, they didn't form up at 3 AM and sacrifice their actual careers and lives for a fucking outdated video game, they don't deserve the same pixels as I have on my screen". Yeah that totally makes sense.

Instancing the raids a bad thing? Only to a sociopath who thinks EQ actually had competition when it came to PvE beyond Worldwide firsts and Serverwide firsts. Sorry dickheads, but that's where competition ends on PvE. Whoever the fuck does it first, everyone else after that is chasing what the first people already did, beating everyone else to figuring something no one else has out. If you think that killing Vox with your alts who don't ever level past 52, "first" for the 50th time on the server is anything of an accomplishment, you must be awfully fucking proud to tie (velcro) your shoes each day. There will never be a Fires of Heaven again, because guess what? Everyone knows which mobs can be killed and the only one that shouldn't be able to. Sorry, that's the entire "awe" of Everquest, gone. That's why 90% of the people went to new places or tried new things, to explore and figure out something that no one else had before. Guess how often that can happen on an emulated server based on a classic timeline? Never.

Dicking over people in the name of a "classic" experience is about the furthest thing from recreating a classic experience. If anyone actually thinks Verant would have run a server like this, they are kidding themselves into insanity.

You all should have been spanked more by your lack of parents, what a fine example of the fucked up population that is America.

[Forza]

Originally Posted by BillyCranston [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Instancing the raids a bad thing?

yes

Only to a sociopath who thinks EQ actually had competition when it came to PvE beyond Worldwide firsts and Serverwide firsts.

No

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by BillyCranston [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The people posting on these topics and the forums and general are the reason this entire community doesn't deserve a fucking thing.

"People complaining about not enough raid mobs/"fair" raid rules for a game that's 13 years old and pre-dates WoW and 99% of what's in WoW? Let me throw around a bunch of wow and instance bullshit, because I'm retarded and never learned how to play with others or anything else from my alcoholic piece of shit parents"

Yeah no, totally, between 200+ people raiding once a week for one or two targets at most each week is what "raiders" should expect. I mean after all, Classic EQ makes up about 1% of the raiding mechanics from all MMOs over time, we should keep those outdated mechanics so that the server feels "classic" aka, like shit.

Keep it up, everyone. You're the kind of cesspool that honestly needs to see the entire EQEmu project shut down, so you can get off your fat fucking lazy ignorant asses, and do even half of what the people putting this dog and pony show on have done. Shut the fuck up already. Sorry P99 crew, but your "classic or bust" mentality when it comes to raiding is bullshit, it has been for years here, it's just now catching up with you. Shutting down the entire raid scene is doing anything except making you all look like people who have let the inmates take over the asylum. Get a fucking grip already and lay down the law, otherwise, you and this entire project is doomed for disaster. It's already been two+ years on Kunark, anyone who really believes in a REMOTELY 'classic' timeline is laughing. Not at the lack of Velious, or XYZ hotfix, but at the utter lack of running this place. Have some balls, tell people what the fucking deal is, and have them accept it, or start their own fucking emulated Everquest project. Honestly if I had the time or dedication to research and redo a bunch of Titanium shit into classic EQ timelines, or a team to do it with, I'd be all for it; I also wouldn't put up with a bunch of pieces of shit who think they're entitled to bitch and moan instead of objectively help and contribute. Sorry, but that is NOT what is going on here anymore, people just whine and then GMs and the staff cater to the whiners. This is just a fucking publicity stunt at this point, from both sides, P99 staff and devs and the community both.

Anyone who wanted to experience what "classic" raiding felt like, aka, PvE "competition" (let's be honest here, all of you neckbeards are calling getting to the target first competition, that's just having enough people with less of a life than <insert other guild(s) here at the given moment>, should have been around when classic PvE competition was relevant. I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks that any guild, 14 years later, shouldn't be able to form up, and zone into Fear, THEIR Fear, and have to do a zone break in, in order to get through all that trash, to finally pull CT, etc etc, is a piece of shit whiner. "No no, they didn't form up at 3 AM and sacrifice their actual careers and lives for a fucking outdated video game, they don't deserve the same pixels as I have on my screen". Yeah that totally makes sense.

Instancing the raids a bad thing? Only to a sociopath who thinks EQ actually had competition when it came to PvE beyond Worldwide firsts and Serverwide firsts. Sorry dickheads, but that's where competition ends on PvE. Whoever the fuck does it first, everyone else after that is chasing what the first people already did, beating everyone else to figuring something no one else has out. If you think that killing Vox with your alts who don't ever level past 52, "first" for the 50th time on the server is anything of an accomplishment, you must be awfully fucking proud to tie (velcro) your shoes each day. There will never be a Fires of Heaven again, because guess what? Everyone knows which mobs can be killed and the only one that shouldn't be able to. Sorry, that's the entire "awe" of Everquest, gone. That's why 90% of the people went to new places or tried new things, to explore and figure out something that no one else had before. Guess how often that can happen on an emulated server based on a classic timeline? Never.

Dicking over people in the name of a "classic" experience is about the furthest thing from recreating a classic experience. If anyone actually thinks Verant would have run a server like this, they are kidding themselves into insanity.

You all should have been spanked more by your lack of parents, what a fine example of the fucked up population that is America.

not witty.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by karekiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can't we just go back to the way things were?

A lot of people ruining classic with all this. It was fine for years, it will be fine still. It was all made up to de-rail the classic EQ goodness.

Originally Posted by karekiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yup, welcome to WoWQuest 99. All your raiding when you want it. Don't want to bother with other guilds? Sure, we have you covered! Don't want to work for your raid mob? Just use our instance. Why not add Normal/Hard mode too? That way everyone can see all the content. Isn't that the whole issue?

[August]

Hey would anybody else like to post without regard to any viewpoint besides their own? These forums are really fun!

Tell me more about how the game is fun to *you* and how anyone else with a differentiating opinion is wrong!

[Nizzarr]

Nobody is gonna be happy with 44 mobs split between 10 guilds.

At least before the raid ban, you had 200 tmo members getting 80% of the mobs but they did put the organizational time in.

You cant claim mobs if youre not interested in putting in as much time as the neckbeards. Thats what everquest was all about. This is also why they made instances on new games, because this isnt healthy for population.

But in essence, this is everquest and dealwithit.jpg

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody is gonna be happy with 44 mobs split between 10 guilds.

At least before the raid ban, you had 200 tmo members getting 80% of the mobs but they did put the organizational time in.

You cant claim mobs if youre not interested in putting in as much time as the neckbeards. Thats what everquest was all about. This is also why they made instances on new games, because this isnt healthy for population.

But in essence, this is everquest and dealwithit.jpg

Everquest didn't have people perma farming the same 20 mobs for 3 years. New expansions were released and the neckbeards moved onto the new mobs. Which allowed the casuals to get the old Kunark mobs. 3 year Kunark means casuals are stuck with no mobs for 3 years. Thus, our current situation.

This isn't everquest. This is limbo-everquest. Stuck in the same content forever. Not a knock at the devs, they are putting in time to get shit right and that's fine. But we have strayed off course due to this and because of that people are getting frustrated. After 3 years the neckbeards are still poopsocking the same content, with even greater efficiency due to more knowledge of the game, more time to make Alts, a cornered market on raid loot to buy Alts, and bat phoning. Which makes "competing" for any new / casual guild near impossible.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody is gonna be happy with 44 mobs split between 10 guilds.

At least before the raid ban, you had 200 tmo members getting 80% of the mobs but they did put the organizational time in.

You cant claim mobs if youre not interested in putting in as much time as the neckbeards. Thats what everquest was all about. This is also why they made instances on new games, because this isnt healthy for population.

But in essence, this is everquest and dealwithit.jpg

[Galelor]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody is gonna be happy with 44 mobs split between 10 guilds.

At least before the raid ban, you had 200 tmo members getting 80% of the mobs but they did put the organizational time in.

You cant claim mobs if youre not interested in putting in as much time as the neckbeards. Thats what everquest was all about. This is also why they made instances on new games, because this isnt healthy for population.

But in essence, this is everquest and dealwithit.jpg

Arguing anything about the competition in p99 being classic is being unreasonable. Here is a stat I just found showing how p99 raiding is decidedly not classic:

2000: Text messaging takes off
Now capable of texting with their friends on other networks, Americans begin sending (a now comically low) 35 texts per month.

Extrapolate...



If the server goal is to relive classic competition, work really needs done to reach that goal. If the goal is for people playing on the server to experience the content they all remember, work needs done to reach that goal. We can fully have both only with coding changes.

I already suggested a token system in a thread a few days ago, but since coding changes are now on the table again... If you want competition, FFA all normal spawns + server repops then you can't use the token system. If you want a token system to spawn mobs, you don't get to FFA any raid mobs but can get x amount of tokens to simulate a months worth of spawns without server repops. I also pose that all items dropped from token mobs are no drop, so if the goal is to experience content, you have to do so in order to get your pixels. Additionally, a guild must wait 1 month after the first system change request is granted. Players must also wait 1 month to loot a raid item once their first system change is made by switching guild tags. Punishment for not following the policy is a 4 week guild raid suspension.

This idea scales with all expansions and loot tiers, and prevents hacking the system. It also allows everyone to play how they want to play at each extreme. You want to compete? Have fun with the other people who also want to compete. You want to experience content at your own pace? Have fun doing so only with your guild or in a FFA guild.

Considering coding changes are now a viable option... Good luck, and God bless...

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody is gonna be happy with 44 mobs split between 10 guilds.

At least before the raid ban, you had 200 tmo members getting 80% of the mobs but they did put the organizational time in.

You cant claim mobs if youre not interested in putting in as much time as the neckbeards. Thats what everquest was all about. This is also why they made instances on new games, because this isnt healthy for population.

But in essence, this is everquest and dealwithit.jpg

Same 44 mobs. Same drops. Just a more diverse group getting stuff and being happier. It doesn't need to be one guild getting 80% of the drops for people to be happy.