Game Mechanics: Z-Axis

[Rallyd]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not that the z-axis wasn't there, it was just ignored.

This is currently not the way it works on Project 1999. Currently mobs require Z-axis resolution to be able to engage you. This is the reason why there are currently so many pathing bugs and exploits all over the server. It seems to me this would be easy to fix, however I'm not a coder.. so we'll hope that this gets some attention and is resolved for the good of all.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Rallyd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is currently not the way it works on Project 1999. Currently mobs require Z-axis resolution to be able to engage you. This is the reason why there are currently so many pathing bugs and exploits all over the server. It seems to me this would be easy to fix, however I'm not a coder.. so we'll hope that this gets some attention and is resolved for the good of all.

I'm aware of how it works here

The OP was insinuating that there shouldn't be a Z-axis, which isn't right. The z-axis has always been here, but classically, mobs ignored it.

Here they definitely don't ignore it.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The z-axis has always been here, but classically, mobs ignored it.

Here they definitely don't ignore it.

Yep, and I agree with this. Will have other devs look into it possible modifications. Off the top of my head, I don't see how it could negatively impact existing mechanics (especially pathing).

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep, and I agree with this. Will have other devs look into it possible modifications. Off the top of my head, I don't see how it could negatively impact existing mechanics (especially pathing).

I can confirm 100% mobs ignored z axis for aggro classic until velious for sure. I can remember running through DL and having mobs aggro below. The entrance of KC was always a dangerous place because of this.

[Dangermouse]

I'm not disputing what's been said, but is it as simple as this? I remember, back on live server, running round the top levels of CoM without agroing anything from ground level. And vice versa, of course. And other dungeons like Befallen - the mobs on lower levels don't agro the people on the top level.

Or is line of sight involved too? And walls (and floors) block line of sight, presumably?

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Dangermouse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not disputing what's been said, but is it as simple as this? I remember, back on live server, running round the top levels of CoM without agroing anything from ground level. And vice versa, of course. And other dungeons like Befallen - the mobs on lower levels don't agro the people on the top level.

Or is line of sight involved too? And walls (and floors) block line of sight, presumably?

This would address an npc's ability to hit a target it has already aggroed, not the initial adding to their hatelist, if that makes sense.

[Dangermouse]

I see, sorry. The mention of running thru DL with levitation, agroing everything below you, was not really the same thing then, and I'm not sure if that agrees with my memory of how it was.

However, I'm certain that it is classic that mobs you had already agrod could hit you regardless of Z axis position.

[Nizzarr]

The game considers the ledge as being levitated above the ground and that creates the z-axis "exploit" which makes everything paths straight to you, ignoring all pathing nodes. This can be recreated in any zone in the game and is also currently used to pull things(like fungi king) to the crypt entrance and what not.

TL;dr : You can pull anything tru any amount of walls by being levitated about 50 units from any ground ( this is exploiting pathing, I suggest not doing it )

[Rallyd]

posted 08-28-2002 10:05 AM

Z axis splioting?

I see that every time a lev and sow'ed n00b goes running to KC from the spire in DL.... All kinds of shit shows up at zone...

BAN THEM ALL!


Taken from http://forums.evercrest.com/cgi-bin/...c&f=1&t=032234

Date is a bit late, but someone from era talking about a commonplace thing where running across dreadlands while levitated did not protect you from aggroing the mobs on the ground. Gorenaire was much more of a terror back then.