please explain the exp hybrid penilty

[koros]

Rooj: I can't figure out a scenario where you having 1.5 yellows left when the monk leveled makes sense mathematically, even if the code was screwy...

The only thing that remotely makes sense is if the monks 20% class or race penalty didn't get applied at all. 1.68 (your required xp) / 1.2 (his class and/or race penalty alone) = 1.4

1.0/.7 (him leveling while you were still 70% of the way through = 1.43

I wonder if there's a bug or some other unknown mechanic going on. If what you said is true something is very screwy.

[Rooj]

I've made an iksar monk named Exptestone. Someone please make an iksar SK and send me a tell - DO NOT turn in the newbie quest scroll for the newbie tunic. We'll group and see if we hit level 2 at the same time. This test may be inaccurate since the values might be too small at this level to make much difference.

[Dirtnap]

Even if the exp was based on how much total exp you have acquired a "penalty" class/race will still take a bigger chunk of the experience because they have had to earn more experience at each level since the start.

This is the way I have seen it work on this server, and I've been here a long time.

[Rooj]

No one sent me a tell the other day, I waited for around 20 minutes but had to leave. I still want to test this but I have had no time lately. Send me a PM with your main name in-game, or someone else can try the test themselves if they'd like.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Rooj [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let me ask you folks above what you think will happen:

An Iksar SK and an Iksar Monk are duoing. They're both at 0% into the same level. Will they both level up at the same time?

No. The Monk has a 44% penalty, SK 68% penalty. So the SK will always be a bit behind.

This page tells what you need. http://wiki.project1999.org/index.ph...e_Class_Matrix

Just try to group with people your own level. If you are a 20 Druid in a Group with 5 level 25 Iksar SK's grab your ass. After 4 hours you might end up being level 19 lol. Just kidding, but not far from it. I have never not invited someone in because of what class, race or gear. What the heck in the long run does it make.

Everyone jumps for joy when a Iksar Monk shows up but they have one of the worse XP penalty's on here and few know about it. But they have great DPS and have great Regen. Just play what class and race you like and the heck with it.

[flatt]

Does this mean the exp penalty is actually a positive by 50? I Mean according to the wiki, u get a larger slice of the pie, to "level at the same speed" which makes me wonder if you made 50 through traditional (groups) means, at some point all those larger slices of pie may overlap or exceed you penalty, no?

[Treefall]

Originally Posted by flatt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does this mean the exp penalty is actually a positive by 50? I Mean according to the wiki, u get a larger slice of the pie, to "level at the same speed" which makes me wonder if you made 50 through traditional (groups) means, at some point all those larger slices of pie may overlap or exceed you penalty, no?

That's not how math works.

It's just a ratio man...there's no way it can put them ahead or behind.

[iRFNA]

but if you've got like 3 slivers of a cherry pie but i've got like half of a pumpkin pie the pumpkin pie weighs more but it's smaller around right so the cherry pie is a halfling and th epumpkin pie is me i think one of those huge pumpkin pie pieces would be more filling than the halfling even if the pupmkin pie is asmaller

[kaev]

Originally Posted by flatt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does this mean the exp penalty is actually a positive by 50? I Mean according to the wiki, u get a larger slice of the pie, to "level at the same speed" which makes me wonder if you made 50 through traditional (groups) means, at some point all those larger slices of pie may overlap or exceed you penalty, no?

No.

Penalties (and bonuses) apply to the amount of XP you need to gain a level.

In a group, XP is divided based on the amount of XP it took each group member to reach their current level.

So, once you are level 2 or higher, your penalty (bonus) is shared with all group members.

If you have an xp penalty, your group (or you alone if solo) will level slower from the same kills than they would if you were replaced by another character of the same level but with a race/class combo that has a smaller penalty.

It is shitty game design. Penalizing the player by slowing his/her rise to the level cap is stupid and shitty class balance. Penalizing those the player groups with in that fashion is pants-on-head retarded.

[webrunner5]

Yeah, whoever came up with the silly ass penalty formula must have been making some damn good money to buy some serious drugs back then.

At least they drop off when veliious ever comes out.