Best solo melee class?

[Snaggles]

I carry an Earthcaller and Swarmcaller and seldom use either outside specific situations. The Meljeldin is a 43% better ratio so I’ve always just assumed consistency is more important than gambling for a slow. It makes sense though the HP loss on average from a slowed mob would be less (lots of early procs which let you swap to the dps weapon). Add in a melee or two and your own drop in DPS is inconsequential.

I dont think a ranger is a “better tank” than a monk but it’s a good example of how rangers are best at surviving when they are “cheating”. Don’t stack AC when you can stack the cards instead.

Kudos to Tytos for doing a 30 Geo parse of each class for sake of science. It doesn’t seem they are biased outside trying to compare two very different approaches. It’s definitely making me think on this a bit more.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I carry an Earthcaller and Swarmcaller and seldom use either outside specific situations. The Meljeldin is a 43% better ratio so I’ve always just assumed consistency is more important than gambling for a slow. It makes sense though the HP loss on average from a slowed mob would be less (lots of early procs which let you swap to the dps weapon). Add in a melee or two and your own drop in DPS is inconsequential.

I dont think a ranger is a “better tank” than a monk but it’s a good example of how rangers are best at surviving when they are “cheating”. Don’t stack AC when you can stack the cards instead.

Kudos to Tytos for doing a 30 Geo parse of each class for sake of science. It doesn’t seem they are biased outside trying to compare two very different approaches. It’s definitely making me think on this a bit more.

Yea early slow procs are nice but I like the idea of embracing the dps would be interesting to compare kills per hour with using Meljeldin 100% of the time vs leading with swarm/earthcaller first and swapping to Meljeldin after the slow proc.

[Snaggles]

I bought a Swarmcaller again after getting a Meljeldin and 2h primal. I’m not convinced it’s much of a dps loss over the EC (with the last 2h damage table change) but haven’t bothered doing any extensive testing. One of these days I will.

The Meljeldin is a 43% better ratio than the Swarmcaller. That makes gamble procs less appealing if your melee is the only way the mob dies. I am curious if the offhand rune makes up for the extra big 2h ripostes etc.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I bought a Swarmcaller again after getting a Meljeldin and 2h primal. I’m not convinced it’s much of a dps loss over the EC (with the last 2h damage table change) but haven’t bothered doing any extensive testing. One of these days I will.

The Meljeldin is a 43% better ratio than the Swarmcaller. That makes gamble procs less appealing if your melee is the only way the mob dies. I am curious if the offhand rune makes up for the extra big 2h ripostes etc.

I would hope double epics can out dps swarmcaller. Not to mention way better stats. But would be nice to pair EC with a tuna whip (nice dps proc) or vyemm whip.

[Ripqozko]

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[Cecily]

This guy has been on 7 raids. I think we should hear him out.

But seriously, I got a Meljeldin 100% on the advice of Ripqozko here years ago and it's the best weapon. It's super high QoL for 1-click primal 2h -> Meljeldin swap. And the damage is great. I have so many neat 1-handers I permanently bagged after I got this sword.

[Goregasmic]

Tytos still had the receipts for his claims and DSM did the math. If yall would rather just auto attack and don't care that's cool, you don't have to be dicks.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tytos still had the receipts for his claims and DSM did the math. If yall would rather just auto attack and don't care that's cool, you don't have to be dicks.

That's how they act unfortunately. They have been on tons of raids, and still don't seem to understand the basic concept that recovery times play a role in how many kills per hour you can get. One day they might figure it out.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's how they act unfortunately. They have been on tons of raids, and still don't seem to understand the basic concept that recovery times play a role in how many kills per hour you can get. One day they might figure it out.

They do understand, they are just lazy and would rather afk with the downtime. Same with complaining about swaps which is funny because this game requires probably 99% less apm than any modern game.

Doesn’t make their choices the most optimal route though.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They do understand, they are just lazy and would rather afk with the downtime. Same with complaining about swaps which is funny because this game requires probably 99% less apm than any modern game.

Doesn’t make their choices the most optimal route though.

Lol indeed. I am just responding in kind to their silly attacks against me.

Some people prefer laziniess over optimization. There are some cases where I do this as well.

But auto attacking with EC + Whip isn't more effort than auto atracking with Cek Sword. Swapping to primal once every few minutes is easy either way.