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Old 09-21-2012, 01:49 AM
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I have a feeling this Trak aoe here is making an envenomed bolt type check for resist and not a true dragon breath check.

Would need a dev to confirm by posting resist value for his poisoned breath.

Yeah it shows a -150 check in every case I have data. People are resisting it way too easy here.

Not to mention players will be taking a -5 level check on this even if they are level 60... this spell should be VERY hard to a non 60 to resist. <3 you Trakanon.

Here it seems like most poison breaths just bounce off people where in reality it should be much rarer and raid wide healing and curing should be rather hectic during the fight.




Right but what level are you? This should be taking a check as a lvl 65 target on a -150 calc... you should be getting regularly pounded by this if you're under 55.

I'm told players with as little as 120 are resisting this at lvl 60 pretty well. That is very wrong.
Okay what are you even talking about? This is exactly why you should actually play on the server before reporting bugs. Trak's AE is still very difficult to resist even at high values of PR. I had 350 PR on the last Trak attempt I participated in, and while I mostly resisted the ae, it still did land at least once. You say ridiculous things like, "here it seems like poison breaths just bounce off people" when that's not at all true.

As for Naggy's ae, maybe because it has a dispel component, and dispel is unresistable in pvp, it's flagged as unresistable? Is this a problem on blue also (I haven't raided naggy, ragefire, or faydedar in a long time so I don't know)?
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Old 09-21-2012, 07:04 AM
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dare to test this out anyone? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I believe the aoe from vox does the samething.

We're 60 with like 250 cold resist and this still lands for full.

Might be good to fix this before velious because a lot of dragons AOE have dispel components, if they act unresistable then some encounter might be too hard. If thats even the issue.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:46 AM
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K well I'd have a dev test them both and report findings and compare it to the data to make sure they are accurate.

Lazor, maybe I did raid Trak here and it bounced off with 127PR on a lvl 60.

Like everything else I talk about, I know what I'm talking about.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:21 AM
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I have 380 pr on most trak raid and it still lands on me, not sure if serious.

This thread is about naggy/faydedar/vox aoe.

start a new thread for trakanon.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:04 PM
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Yeah Trak should be murdering you with poison at that value.

Hopefully the poison effect lasts like forever like it did on live too and not just 1 minute.

I don't recall having Shadoo AND Resist poison both being able to effect me at the same time. This seems wrong, but no clear memory on that.
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:11 PM
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Made my own thread sorry.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:03 PM
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dare to test this out anyone? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I believe the aoe from vox does the samething.

We're 60 with like 250 cold resist and this still lands for full.

Might be good to fix this before velious because a lot of dragons AOE have dispel components, if they act unresistable then some encounter might be too hard. If thats even the issue.
Have you been able to resist the Fiery Death ae from the king in Chardok (the queen's is meant to be unresistable)? It also has a dispel component and I was able to reliably resist it on blue as recently as today with about 200 FR. If it's unresistable on red, then we've isolated the problem.
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Old 09-22-2012, 07:24 AM
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Queen in Chardok should be using Flame Song of Ro I think.

It has a Fire check:

FlameSongOfRo
DoT for 850 Hit Points (HP) in 1 ticks


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Classes: None

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Area Effect Range: 30 feet
Pushes Target Back: 1 feet

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Skill: Evocation
Allowable Targets: Point Blank AoE

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Resistance Check: Fire

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Spell Duration: 1 ticks (6 seconds)
Duration Formula: 7
Recast Delay: 12.0 seconds

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Spell cast on you: You are immolated by flame.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso is immolated by flame.
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Old 09-22-2012, 11:28 PM
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bump, 3 bard groups tonight on faydedar, not a single partial or resist on 20 people. mostly 60s with ~250-300 fr
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Old 09-23-2012, 12:07 AM
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dragon aes I thought were unresistable?
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