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Old 08-21-2012, 07:32 PM
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The Gaffe guide and Japanese guide say different things.

From Gaffe:

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Now take this note from Kandin and give it to Dargon in Halas. This will cause Arantir to spawn in the place of Dargon once again. Once Arantir has spawned, hail him and continue
So it says give the Note to Arantir to Dargon, and it will spawn the final turn-in NPC. This is how TMO wizards apparently did it.


The Japanese part from below the "Halas" heading:

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再びやってきました極寒の街Halas。
しかし、WizGGポイントから、もっとも遠い街に配置されている辺り、
Verantの意地の悪さを感じますね…。
念のために先人のやり方を踏襲して、最初の方のパートの薬渡しで Arantirをポップさせます
また800pp程とびますた><;
という事で、貯金が1000ppをきってたり><あう

いよいよ、ノートを渡します。
ちゃんちゃらちゃ~ん!
Quest達成時のファンファーレが鳴り響きますが、 何も聞けず、何も貰えません><;
失敗?いやそうではなくて、呼びとめなくていけないようです。
呼びとめると、反応が薬でポップさせた直後と違いますね。
(薬でポップさせたArantirにHailをするとChallice宛ての指輪が貰える)
一旦デポップしてNew Arantirになっている可能性がありますね…。
ともかく、Arantirさんは、3つのStaffを渡してくれれば自分のStaffとCom bine してくれると
言っています。

渡しましょう、貴重な3Staff、Blue Crystal Staff、Gnarled Staff、 Staff of Gabstikを!
流石に緊張が走ります><;
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Once again back to frigid Halas.
The town further from any of the wizard spires...this is how wicked Verant is...
Just to be sure, I followed the steps of some before me, and popped Arantir in the same way as at the beginning by handing over the medicine (Breath of Ro).
Cost me another 800pp ><;
There goes my 1000pp of savings >< ugh (Haha 1k pp was a big deal!)

Alright, I hand in the note.
Ding~~!
The chime that plays when you complete a quest played, but I heard no new text, and I didn't get anything back! ><
Did it fail? Nope, it seems that you just have to hail him again.
Hailing him this time, his response is different than after giving him the medicine (Breath of Ro).
(When you hail the Arantir that pops from the Breath of Ro, you recieve the ring to give to Challice)
I guess that one might have depopped, and this is a New Arantir...

Anyways, Arantir says if I give him the 3 staves he will combine them for me.

Lets hand them over, the 3 valuable staves, Blue Crystal Staff, Gnarled Staff, and Staff of Gabstik!
So nervous, of course ><;
So basically it sounds like you're right? You should be able to spawn Arantir the same way as in the beginning and turn in the stuff that way. Weird how these are apparently only 1 month apart in date (I couldnt find the month for the Japanese article), but it changed? Or maybe Gaffe was updated at some point?

Either way the way you did it seems legitimate, so hopefully you can get the reimbursement, and either have the quest changed so both options are possible, or just one is and its made clear so no other skins are lost in vain!

Hope the translation helps, I'm bored!
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:50 PM
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Najdorf's Graffe link isn't actually from December 2000, as it includes the broken golem and the golem wasn't added until several months later.

This is the actual December 2000 link:
http://web.archive.org/web/200012130...type/index.htm

Which has the text:
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You will now have a note from Kandin that you must take to Arantir. This is where things go weird. Occy, the wizard that first completed this quest, took the note to Arantir and handed it to him. Upon handing it to Arantir, nothing happened. No item handed back to Occy, no words spoken by Arantir... nothing. Needless to say, Occy just about cr*pped himself. All Occy heard was the experience 'chime'. Then Occy hailed Arantir <i>after</i> he handed in the note.
Which would indicate that the note was originally handed to Arantir instead of Dargon.

And the Japanese website is not a translation of other walkthroughs, that is their actual walkthrough that they were developing as they found new details. You'll notice at the bottom what is basically a "changelog" of what was updated on the guide (in regards to the skin portion of the quest that took a while to figure out due to the skin hardly dropping on live) as time passed from October 5th to completion by Winday (December 25th). This is the same place where I found out that Arantir is supposed to drop the Robe of Recovery (aka the no rent clarity robe), which no other website on the internet had the details of, so it's pretty legit as far as fact finding goes.

I'm the one that recommended to San that he hand the note to Arantir based on these guides, as they were the only ones I could find that had dates relevant to our timeline (and I hate going off the wiki for things like this). Hopefully nilbog sees it as enough evidence to warrant reimbursement, because the feeling we all had when nothing happened after the note was turned in sucked major dong, especially for me since I'm the one that told him to turn it into Arantir.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:14 AM
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And the Japanese website is not a translation of other walkthroughs, that is their actual walkthrough that they were developing as they found new details.
See translation, it shows you were right.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:35 AM
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See translation, it shows you were right.
all it proves is that the japanese person was mistaken actually.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:20 AM
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all it proves is that the japanese person was mistaken actually.
Haha, I would be amazed if they spend all the time writing that gigantic walkthrough and it just happened to be wrong. Wasn't a different server or anything~

You never know it could have been both ways before!
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:03 PM
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Sorry - link got jacked up while I was clicking around through the guides. Updated in the original. Thanks.
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:56 PM
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Thanks for all the feedback!
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:25 AM
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:26 AM
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If you think about the storyline, Arantir is incognito, hiding as Dargon in Halas. So you want to talk to Dargon and give him the note. Same with the ring earlier on.

If Arantir is up its most likely going to be the intermediate Arantir spawn that hasn't depopped. You can tell which it is by hailing him.

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You say, 'hail Arantir Karondor'
Arantir Karondor says' Ah yes, you again.
Do you have the items?
Give me the three you possess and I'll combine them with my own.
Final Arantir only.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:57 AM
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Raavak -- yes, you should be able to hand the note into Dargon as well. But the point of this bug is to point out that you could also turn the note into the first Arantir for the same effect. Also, in a lot of the earlier guides (such as those that I have linked in the original post), it appears that it may have been the only option starting out, and patched later.
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