How long?

[Lemons]

Originally Posted by Dfn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then shut the fuck up and wait until expansion number 24.

i love classic, but the problem with classic is that it wasnt perfect, which it needs to be to have as fair as possible pvp.

[Envious]

Like 70 people played VZ/TZ at its height...

The other part of the 250+ chars were 3boxes and Brainz solo box raid group.

[mourning]

Its fine man. Classic is classic. Its fucking Everquest Bro Doggie. What did u expect?


TREAT IT AS A BEAR GRYLLS SIMULATOR.

[Xix]

Originally Posted by mourning [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its fine man. Classic is classic. Its fucking Everquest Bro Doggie. What did u expect?


TREAT IT AS A BEAR GRYLLS SIMULATOR.

There were a ton less people playing at this stage during blue.
Server is a success.

[Ninja]

Originally Posted by Xix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There were a ton less people playing at this stage during blue.
Server is a success.

Touche

[georgie]

sounds like the classic WHY IS MY PET DISAPPEARING WHEN I ZONE. from a mage.

[Dojii]

Originally Posted by Lemons [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How long until we keep slowly introducing what worked on vztz to red99 until we are pretty much the same as vztz?

there was a reason people played on vztz, cause it worked...


There is 2 sides to this server, the keep it classic side and the make it work side.

classic and pvp just doesnt work. we need to stop this meeting in the middle bullshit between classic and what works. there is no middle ground.

Either go full on work, put your classic highground to the side and lets make this work.

What we are doing right now is beta, when its live, and we are leaking players like crazy due to this. how long and how many players until we finally realize its time to stop the classic mentality and make it work?

VZTZ was never classic. it functioned off the titanium client. spell sets, ui, bug fixes, etc.

However I still see what you're trying to say. But preservation of PVP should be the main issue. Anything that defeats good PVP should be removed. Insta gate potions, Insta fuck Direct Damage clicks, etc, etc. Otherwise your box is doomed lololol

[Lemons]

ffs thank you doji for seeing it my way. or atleast understanding what im saying and coming from. instead of writing it off as me finding the game to hard.

i assure you all i dont find this game to hard, infact i find this server more then playable. The problem is not as many people are as thick skinned as me.

This the problem we have, and its an image one.

When players poopsock to 50 using supposed exploits, which imo are not exploits. but they are precieved by the general public to be so. wands, swords, harvest, on and on and on. Stuff that was later tweaked to make more fair.

People left because they were basically cheated out of leveling that way.

the devs on server up knew about this stuff but since it was classic they left it in. Eventually came to there senses but not before people left over it.

This is my point, stop beating around the bush and slowly fixing the bullshit.
lets stop this middle ground bullshit and lets fix the dumb shit before we lose more players of this.

another example, SK armor quests, taken out after a select few people did them already.

The few get the advantage and then its taken out.

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LEAVE OVER THIS.


we need to balls up and jump to the real problem, the wait and see attitude, lets fucking fix it NOW.

[Uthgaard]

Originally Posted by Lemons [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ffs thank you doji for seeing it my way. or atleast understanding what im saying and coming from. instead of writing it off as me finding the game to hard.

i assure you all i dont find this game to hard, infact i find this server more then playable. The problem is not as many people are as thick skinned as me.

This the problem we have, and its an image one.

When players poopsock to 50 using supposed exploits, which imo are not exploits. but they are precieved by the general public to be so. wands, swords, harvest, on and on and on. Stuff that was later tweaked to make more fair.

People left because they were basically cheated out of leveling that way.

the devs on server up knew about this stuff but since it was classic they left it in. Eventually came to there senses but not before people left over it.

This is my point, stop beating around the bush and slowly fixing the bullshit.
lets stop this middle ground bullshit and lets fix the dumb shit before we lose more players of this.

another example, SK armor quests, taken out after a select few people did them already.

The few get the advantage and then its taken out.

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LEAVE OVER THIS.


we need to balls up and jump to the real problem, the wait and see attitude, lets fucking fix it NOW.

I see lots of we, but all I hear is wah. You talk about things that need fixed, but only list things that have been. Try posting things that haven't been identified, then someone might take you seriously.

Until that time, it's just whining - far from original, anything but seminal.

[Lemons]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see lots of we, but all I hear is wah. You talk about things that need fixed, but only list things that have been. Try posting things that haven't been identified, then someone might take you seriously.

Until that time, it's just whining - far from original, anything but seminal.

are you kidding me? just browse a few posts. It's all over the place.