How long?
 

How long until we keep slowly introducing what worked on vztz to red99 until we are pretty much the same as vztz?

there was a reason people played on vztz, cause it worked...


There is 2 sides to this server, the keep it classic side and the make it work side.

classic and pvp just doesnt work. we need to stop this meeting in the middle bullshit between classic and what works. there is no middle ground.

Either go full on work, put your classic highground to the side and lets make this work.

What we are doing right now is beta, when its live, and we are leaking players like crazy due to this. how long and how many players until we finally realize its time to stop the classic mentality and make it work?

if vztz worked so well where is it now?

Dont feed troll

its a serious question. did you guys ever think that the population is low and getting lower due to some of the players on the server and not the server options? not everyone likes getting trained and bind camped. look at what happened to the live pvp servers. the more people started training others and bind campign the lower the population got. there are not nearly as many people playing emu as were playing the live servers, so you see the effects a lot quicker on the emu.

What? No one played on vztz. You had like 80 people online every day, half of which were two-boxed.

I had fun on VZTZ. After it got wiped, I stopped, but that's besides the point.

Edit: And I didn't two box either

Like 70 people played VZ/TZ at its height...

The other part of the 250+ chars were 3boxes and Brainz solo box raid group.

vztz died because of poor management, its actually why we got excited when project1999 decided to get involved with a pvp server. We saw a team of individuals that were dedicated to a clean server.

The perfect fresh start.


I for one didnt foresee however all the problems "classic" pvp was going to cause, and then the ongoing tweaking of non classic to the middle of the road shit while its still broken and barely functions any different from pre-fix all in the name of keeping it classic.

I just dont see the point anymore? we keep edging farther and farther away from non classic, lets just stop beating around the bush and fix it.

Fuck classic, it sucked.

Then shut the fuck up and wait until expansion number 24.

i love classic, but the problem with classic is that it wasnt perfect, which it needs to be to have as fair as possible pvp.