barbarian shaman v.s ogre shaman

[C5BAMF]

Good shaman don't give you the chance to go toe to toe with them, which is where the regen comes into play. Lv60 Troll Shaman (natural regen + fungi tunic + buffed regen) makes one frustrating fucking fight. I've seen a full group of players chasing a shaman around DL, it wasn't long before they began dropping like flies.

Still, I'd probably play ogre. Later in the game you get pretty dependent on that frontal stun immunity, especially when soloing big game.

[Smedy]

It all depends on what you're out to do, for PVE troll shaman is the best no doubt, for pvp it's the ogre shaman.

Having the ability to back into a corner and not be able to be stunned by melee is priceless trust me. But troll at 60 with fungus + regrowth isn't bad either.

I'd stay the fuck away from barbarian is the end of my conclusion.

[naez]

youre not disagreeing with me, youre disagreeing with the greatest shaman/bard to ever play EQ; blart/fansy

The n00b's Guide to the Troll Shaman on Rallos Zek

[Bockscar]

Troll (...) PR 15, MR 25, DR 15, HR 5, CR 25

HR 5

5

Please don't play trolls on a PvP server when ogre is already the superior race for any casting class even before you factor in the fact that trolls have -20 to like the second most important resist.

[stonetz]

If you want to play a troll do it, if it's only based on stats go with ogre for sure. All those mage bolts are going to hurt those trolls.

If you think trolls are cool or are worth it then do it, it's nice to have some variety. Going to be plenty of ogres.

[Lovely]

Play whatever race you want to play.. But Ogre is best hands down

[Cwall]

depends on resists i'd say

if snare can land, go troll innoruuk for the darkness neck

otherwise ogre

[Wonton]

just make a level 1 ogre shammy and level 1 troll shammy and duel. winner is yours

[Palemoon]

A few things to add, or to correct in the case of wrong info:

-Ogres get Infavision, not Ultravision (and if they do here, its a bug).

-Iskar get starting skill in Forage

-The role of holy symbols for the different races. Trolls of Innoruk get the best of them, the others are more toys

-Faction, with faction being fixed by Nilborg, it is a factor on a pvp server. In many overland old world areas the Barbarian will have guards to run to, or to pvp/rest behind. Not so for the other races as much, without a lot of faction work.

-Iskar can't use kunark armor for the clickies like free damage

-Iskar get their own shaman club quest, this quest is completable all the way up to a epic quality club on Al'kabor... NOT sure the timeline on it and if that epic quality club will be availible in Velious (or earlier?)

In the end? Always choose the race/class combo that will help you "get into" your character the most. Your character is your in game persona, not just a collection of numbers. The more you love the "style" and idea of your character, the more fun you will have in game. This is classic EQ, you wont be having accounts full of max level toons, well unless you grind for years. You got to love your main.

[Hovis]

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In the end? Always choose the race/class combo that will help you "get into" your character the most. Your character is your in game persona, not just a collection of numbers. The more you love the "style" and idea of your character, the more fun you will have in game. This is classic EQ, you wont be having accounts full of max level toons, well unless you grind for years. You got to love your main.

Amen!