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Old 07-21-2025, 07:30 PM
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My only point is if I wanted a frostweaver embroidered cloak, it would be much faster for me to farm 18k than be there for the next dain kill assuming no one wants one and it drops first try.
I guess it depends. In my guild, the last one "sold" for 220 DKP. Each kill varies, but major targets (stuff like Dain, ToV dragons, etc.) are worth about 20 DKP, so you'd need about 11 such kills for a cloak.

I'd imagine you could attend eleven raids in a few weeks, then go to to Dain raids for a few weeks, faster than you can earn 18k (and find a seller) ... but maybe not if you are good at plat farming?

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... or all the no drop raid gear.
There are a few better NO DROP options: https://wiki.project1999.com/Special.../Back/AllItems. But also, there's the Shroud of the Dar Brood. It has similar stats (but no Charisma), and it only "sold" for 20DKP at the last Zlandi.

You could join a major raid guild, go on just two raids (anything decent and Zlandicar ) and walk away with a cloak nearly as good as the Dain one.
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Old 07-23-2025, 09:02 AM
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I've raided a fair bit back in 2001-2003 on live. I assume guilds in general would be a lot better at it today.
Yeah, the top tier raiders are. I think on the whole, the average raider has not improved since 2001.
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Old 07-21-2025, 09:42 AM
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So I'm starting to be close to getting all the EC pieces I want and I'll get some SS MQs too for my "all around" gear set. Eventually I'll be ready to join a guild and raid some. I'll have to come up with a solid resist gear set too.

As an ench will they even let me raid as an ench? Outside C2/haste bitch from what I understand there's very little to do if you can't charm anything worthwhile. Do I really need to be within AE range as a chanter? From what I understand our nukes are mostly resisted due to the stun component and shamans have a better slow.

I never bothered with VOG because I just don't need it, I mostly solo. Do guilds have copies of that or it is critical I shell out the 12k for it?

And then what's the magic resist numbers to aim for unbuffed?

From what I understand the most critical is MR, then FR/CR, then PR/DR? How big of a deal is pr/dr? I noticed on most pieces it is either cr/fr or pr/dr, svALL being pretty rare.

Any other ench raiding advice is welcome.

Thanks.
Guilds will have VoG. Its required.

I never bothered with special resist gear. Velious was beat in Kunark gear, you'll be fine.

Charm kills: Anything in Kael (required - best is Korakaz but Troopers are fine too, getting these druid snared helps a ton), PoG (required - Sprites are your charm targets), Fear (required - Irak Altil ideal but the imps are good too they backstab), Hate (required), Dain (maybe).

I used to charm whelps for a few ToV dragons like Eashen and Vyemm.

Since rooted dragons picture room "goaltending" is out, but you can goalie duty Vulak guards if people are still doing the wizard kite in trips room strat. You'd probably do more harm then good being up with the pull team without any experience but you can definitely do goalie work when crawling around on competitive engages.

From what I understand, tash and slow aggro isn't what it used to be, so this is probably outdated: but if you really want to shine on competitive high speed pulls in ToV you need to befriend a wizard and a mage. Be in their group. Get a TL box (of course you're bound outside ToV if you're a raider), every time a flurry drake is being pulled into camp run up to the pullers, tash, click your TL box, re-enter, and get coth'd back up. You can do this on all slowable bosses as well but it sounds like people aren't really that sweaty about it anymore.

Make sure your /yell or /gu slow macro specifies "ENC SLOW" so the shaman know to keep going with theirs.

Can always have a reaper ready to save a tank. Big on stuff like AoW.

Have a DA item / idol ready. AoE tash bomb + DA idol can buy a raid a bit of time on messy train aways. At the very least, bring a DA idol with you at all times and give it to someone competent if they've used theirs already.

I'm sure I'm forgetting some other niche / clutch things as its been 4 or 5 years since I raided but if you can do all this you're miles ahead of the average wall-licker enchanter warmbody.

Save all your DKP for Essence of Nature (FT5) from Tunare, then get other items after that. If your raid guild / force doesn't do Tunare, look for another one because you're wasting your time otherwise. FT5 is your single best piece of gear possible.
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Old 07-21-2025, 10:31 AM
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Enchanters dont need any gear on raids. I was in guild with an enchanter who had Braided Cinch Cord at level 60, and was the #1 Enchanter attendee at raids. He was very useful - because ENC primary role on raids is buffing.

now, if you wanna be more of a playmaker on raids, and charm kael giants for AoW, or tash and sieve ToV dragons or Zlandi, etc - resists will help dodge the AEs - but again best enc ive had on raids with me had shit gear at 60
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Old 07-21-2025, 10:59 AM
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Enchanters dont need any gear on raids. I was in guild with an enchanter who had Braided Cinch Cord at level 60, and was the #1 Enchanter attendee at raids. He was very useful - because ENC primary role on raids is buffing.

now, if you wanna be more of a playmaker on raids, and charm kael giants for AoW, or tash and sieve ToV dragons or Zlandi, etc - resists will help dodge the AEs - but again best enc ive had on raids with me had shit gear at 60
oh ya i forgot about sieves too

otherwise you're wrong...if all you do is buff as an enchanter you're a warmbody

can do everything i mentioned and buff np (hence why FT5 is single most important item, period)
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Old 07-21-2025, 01:57 PM
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Lots of charming in kael for sure,but charm pets no longer attack tunare. But enchanters are very important otherwise for that engage.

Bvellos with vog+avatar does like 4 rogues worth of dps
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Old 07-21-2025, 02:01 PM
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but charm pets no longer attack tunare
sheeeeiiiiit
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Old 07-21-2025, 02:58 PM
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Most raiding on p99 isn't scheduled, so you will probanly be able to make some stuff. Assuming your around at all the day stuff is scheduled to pop.
I have like 2%raid attendance these days,lots of people just ho when it lines up for them
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Old 07-21-2025, 05:41 PM
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but charm pets no longer attack tunar
That would be a pet peave then?
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Old 07-22-2025, 08:34 AM
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If your raid guild doesn't target Tunare, don't bother. Find a new home. FT5 is the only item truly worth raiding for as an enchanter. The rest is pure gravy.
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