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[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by SorenVC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But if humans go extinct, do the other animals live on? How would this be happening and what for? The animals have as much a meaningless existence as humans. The lions just hunting zebras for eternity. Doesn't really sound like heaven to me.

We don't have the Universal Union Combine on earth (yet).

Dogs gonna take over, we trained them to replace us.

[SorenVC]

I think Buddha is right because if you're born in Japan it doesn't take a lot of effort to learn Japanese, if you're born in Germany it doesn't take a lot of effort to learn German, and if you had some English classes and communicated in English on the internet for a while, it also won't be too difficult to learn English once you're growing into an adult. Forcing is like trying to learn a new language when you're too old for that and don't really need the language. Forcing is thinking you need it so you desperately use all your resources to get it, but it doesn't work well.

Did Ichigo force this win against Aizen or did he train with Zangetsu for a long time (where's the force in that?) and then simply went to Aizen knowing that he's stronger? Aizen seemed more to be forcing things here and Ichigo still won.

[shovelquest]

Watch this magna!

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Originally Posted by SorenVC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They just didn't get humbled enough although I agree that I wouldn't wanna be a fat Buddha

Well there you go. Most of my discipline is in regards to physical health

I see so many young people saying “why shouldn’t I do what makes me happy?” And I’m flabbergasted. Eating donuts for every meal would make me happy. Doing a mountain of cocaine for breakfast would make me happy. Not paying my bills would make me happy

There’s all sorts of reasons to NOT do what makes us happy, it such an absurd idea. Not saying the OP is saying this, just something I see all the time

[SorenVC]

Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well there you go. Most of my discipline is in regards to physical health

I see so many young people saying “why shouldn’t I do what makes me happy?” And I’m flabbergasted. Eating donuts for every meal would make me happy. Doing a mountain of cocaine for breakfast would make me happy. Not paying my bills would make me happy

There’s all sorts of reasons to NOT do what makes us happy, it such an absurd idea. Not saying the OP is saying this, just something I see all the time

Or it wouldn't make you happy because you'd get fat and ugly so you workout instead because it makes you more happy... Right?

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by SorenVC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But if humans go extinct, do the other animals live on? How would this be happening and what for? The animals have as much a meaningless existence as humans. The lions just hunting zebras for eternity. Doesn't really sound like heaven to me.

We don't have the Universal Union Combine on earth (yet).

Originally Posted by SorenVC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But if humans go extinct, do the other animals live on? How would this be happening and what for? The animals have as much a meaningless existence as humans. The lions just hunting zebras for eternity. Doesn't really sound like heaven to me.

We don't have the Universal Union Combine on earth (yet).

Heaven is not on / in earth.

U go there in ur senses when you die if you are judged worthy and taught about it. There may and is probably some external conscious force involved. Most ppl say G-d, spirits, angels, devils, Satan etc... beware because Satan pretends to be G-d and pretends to send u to Heaven.

As for what happens after humans that's between them and G-d. U won't know. It may be intelligent cats with opposable thumbs.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Originally Posted by SorenVC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or it wouldn't make you happy because you'd get fat and ugly so you workout instead because it makes you more happy... Right?

The basic premise is what I mentioned before. All these things that make us happy and are comfortable and easy in the short term mean a nightmarish long term

Taking my examples: doing cocaine every day, donuts for every meal, and not paying my bills anymore would eventually result in me horribly fat, with a ruined nose and screwed up heart and brain from all the cocaine, and in prison for skipping those bills

Even if the alternative isn’t exercising, even if the alternative is just NOT doing those things that make me happy and instead sitting in a chair staring at a wall for that period of time, I’d still end up better off [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[magnetaress]

It's OK to die. Don't let anyone force you to live in order to pay "feed" them.

[SorenVC]

Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The basic premise is what I mentioned before. All these things that make us happy and are comfortable and easy in the short term mean a nightmarish long term

Taking my examples: doing cocaine every day, donuts for every meal, and not paying my bills anymore would eventually result in me horribly fat, with a ruined nose and screwed up heart and brain from all the cocaine, and in prison for skipping those bills

Even if the alternative isn’t exercising, even if the alternative is just NOT doing those things that make me happy and instead sitting in a chair staring at a wall for that period of time, I’d still end up better off [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But you don't do cocaine, don't eat donuts, still pay your bills, simply because you are afraid of the consequences. You just implied it, we do things because of fear. You keep those numbers up in your bank account because of fear. You workout because you want to be admired by the other gender. You don't want to become poor, homeless, or fat, and ugly to women, so you do this and that. Isn't this just fear..? Fear and pain are the strongest motivators.

You don't mess with John Wick because you don't wanna die. You serve the High Table because prior circumstances made you be involved with the High Table. I take my Olanzapine pills because after 4 tries getting off cold turkey, I realized and experienced that this is very bad and painful. It all seems to me like people are not honest with themselves when they call themselves disciplined or so, as for my life, I wouldn't say that I did any thing on my own, nor would I say that I would do anything different if I had to relive the same experience, because with the same circumstances it is the same moment which is in the past and already happened, so how can there be a free will, a choice, that alters the future, if the moment in time exists only once?

[SorenVC]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's OK to die. Don't let anyone force you to live in order to pay "feed" them.

I also think it's ok to die. I wouldn't do suicide because I am VERY scared of pain, but I respect people who suicided. Imo it takes a lot of will and effort to complete a suicide and get this done, it is like the hardest thing you can do in life, so I never understood those bashers who blame them. The suicidal person blames themself for everything and kills themself, and then other people blame the suicidal person too. Ironic.