Where are the actual disarmable traps in the game?

[Mentathiel]

I stand corrected...

Okay, I'll confess that I have only got a rogue to 33, but the impression I'd got from the forums was that rogues didn't really have a lot to distinguish them. It sounds like they have some limited uses, but I've seen more use for my rogue-skills in class-specific quests (Burning Rapier, for example) than grouping. Unless you count corpse-dragging, that is...

[Swish]

You're the best melee damage dealer in the game. Very well geared monks get close but they're not rogues, be proud [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Mentathiel]

Oh, I am. I love being the best damage-dealer in a group, but there is that moment when you wonder when you will next find a use for pick-locks / disarm traps. Not to mention the way everyone suffers an attack of the grumpies when you practise your pick-pocket skill...

[Monty405]

I would always get random tells on live for my rogue to join a group of strangers doing HS or Seb (that undead area with the locked door).

Its been awhile since I have played at that level.

[Swish]

pls can u open crypt door so i can farm a heiro cloak to sell in ec? thx, gd luck with ur lfg~

[mr_jon3s]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Traps needed to be more lethal in the game.... oh I just lost 2% health to that trap, that's cute.

Those traps in sol a are very lethal. I was running through one day and trap hit me just right and did 80% of my life in 2 seconds.

[eisley]

In Velious, Dragon Necropolis is a zone notorious for its' traps. Enjoy!

[sacman08]

City of Mist, Old Seb and Dagnor's for VS all need a lockpick from what I remember (unless everyone is using an exploit). Any place where a key is needed and people are too lazy to camp for it.

[Mentathiel]

From the first day I started picking locks in Befallen, I got the 'can U open door 4 CR?' messages when people saw a rogue in /w, but I have never had a group invitation for anything but dps. I've been invited to groups on another continent for dps, but I spent a large chunk of late-teens in Befallen and late-20s in Sol A without ever being asked to do more than backstab or corpse-drag...

[TarukShmaruk]

Originally Posted by Mentathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The rogue class often feels like an afterthought; how many groups have you been in which looked for a rogue to open doors or disarm traps? Traps are irritating, not dangerous. Locked doors trap you the second your rogue dies, so you end up getting keys in places like Befallen just to be safe. So many players have never even heard of evasion, including some mid-level rogues, because it's just not part of normal play.

It's not just Everquest though; with the exception of D&D Online, where they do hide optional content / chests behind locked doors and unavoidable traps can take off 50% of a wizard's hit-points, I cannot think of any MMORPG where rogues are not just a DPS class which can be swapped out for a monk or ranger as needed...

That's because it's dumb to completely ruin the play experience of everyone else because 1/8th or 1/16th or whatever of the class representation isn't present.

It works well in single player multi party RPGs but not in MMOs