Casters in velious

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Syft-X [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well the 66% dmg nerf to dots and nukes did go into effect in Kunark, but on live melee's hit about 30-40% lower and hit rates were much less. That added to the 4 years of kunark and the average resist gear and we see a huge problem in caster vs melee balance.

Then add in Line of sight being broken here, on live you didn't require los to cast just a target in this era. Which forces casters into the perfect killing zone of a melee. Casters spells easily being able to be ranged as a melee jousts in and out of spell range.

Then you clearly see a problem that is growing bigger as it is left unaddressed.

Im just curious what do you base your math out of? Youve been so extremely wrong when you talk about eq before. Is there evidence of the melee hitting 30-40% lower? Im curious.

[Tassador]

I remember quitting when people were gearing up with giant and dragon gear + primal. Remember my Druid and necro never being able to kill shit. But I also remember when people didn't even joust...

[Pumped]

i played on rallos and can honestly say you didnt resist any nukes until you were vex thal geared with 200+ unbuffed

UNBUFFED

spell reductions are stupid and not classic, but then again this is a custom server anyways and no one cares.

[awfal]

Originally Posted by Pumped [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i played on rallos and can honestly say you didnt resist any nukes until you were vex thal geared with 200+ unbuffed

UNBUFFED

spell reductions are stupid and not classic, but then again this is a custom server anyways and no one cares.

this statement is just not true. i resisted most spells with 130+ resists.

spells hit for full damage on 98% of the rallos population because people were NOT WEARING GEAR. classic/kunark no-drop items didn't have much for resist on them, so you had casters/melee running around with 60-80 resists. only the top pvpers would even wear resist gear, no one wanted to lose their pixels. rarely would you ever see anyone in droppable gear unless they were deep inside a zone.

you also didn't have people running around with bags full of pumice, levi cloaks, etc - most people didn't even know what a pumice did back then.

nevertheless, in velious casters receive hp upgrades too, and there are plenty of strategic locations for casters to pvp in velious.

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[Malevz]

Originally Posted by awfal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this statement is just not true. i resisted most spells with 130+ resists.

spells hit for full damage on 98% of the rallos population because people were NOT WEARING GEAR. classic/kunark no-drop items didn't have much for resist on them, so you had casters/melee running around with 60-80 resists. [/IMG]

He's right, on vallon you full resisted like 95% of mage nukes, wizard draughts, druid nukes, etc. That's why necros and wizards were more feared, -200 and -300 spells were nasty. I ran around with 120-130 mr unbuffed on my rogue and you were basically unsnareable and unnukable outside of lures. Rains weren't worth casting either. By comparison casters have it pretty easy on red99.

[Uuruk]

Originally Posted by awfal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this statement is just not true. i resisted most spells with 130+ resists.

spells hit for full damage on 98% of the rallos population because people were NOT WEARING GEAR. classic/kunark no-drop items didn't have much for resist on them, so you had casters/melee running around with 60-80 resists. only the top pvpers would even wear resist gear, no one wanted to lose their pixels. rarely would you ever see anyone in droppable gear unless they were deep inside a zone.

you also didn't have people running around with bags full of pumice, levi cloaks, etc - most people didn't even know what a pumice did back then.

nevertheless, in velious casters receive hp upgrades too, and there are plenty of strategic locations for casters to pvp in velious.

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Strategic pvping at their bind point.

[jeffd]

shamans def the best farming toons in velious, shm+mnk or shm+sk being the classic pve dreamteam

as for pvp, if ur a yt / pvp board guy, make a melee right now

melees: (+) hp pools doubling, (+) insane weapon itemization, (+) monks getting 3ple atk
casters: (-) everyone will have 200+ resists, (-) itemization effects casters less (u can raise ur hp/mana pools, but u won't ever hit harder)

kunark was the age of the caster on live, and look how that turned out on this box. verious was the age of the melee. that being said, someone needs to keep the swarms of rogues/monks raidbuffed, so casters will still have a place

[jeffd]

also something 2 note, rogue dmg will not significantly increase in verious outside of gear just getting better overall, as right now the highest dmg rog wep (15 dmg) is the same as the highest dmg verious rogue wep (15 dmg)

this means rogues will actually be toned down slightly as the dmg gods they are atm

don't worry tho because monks will replace them

[Widan]

Originally Posted by jeffd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

also something 2 note, rogue dmg will not significantly increase in verious outside of gear just getting better overall, as right now the highest dmg rog wep (15 dmg) is the same as the highest dmg verious rogue wep (15 dmg)

this means rogues will actually be toned down slightly as the dmg gods they are atm

don't worry tho because monks will replace them

isnt there a 19 damage mainhand?

[jeffd]

3 posts in a row, emotional