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Old 07-11-2013, 04:51 PM
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Old 07-14-2013, 09:02 PM
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Let me ask you folks above what you think will happen:

An Iksar SK and an Iksar Monk are duoing. They're both at 0% into the same level. Will they both level up at the same time?
No. The Monk has a 44% penalty, SK 68% penalty. So the SK will always be a bit behind.

This page tells what you need. http://wiki.project1999.org/index.ph...e_Class_Matrix

Just try to group with people your own level. If you are a 20 Druid in a Group with 5 level 25 Iksar SK's grab your ass. After 4 hours you might end up being level 19 lol. Just kidding, but not far from it. I have never not invited someone in because of what class, race or gear. What the heck in the long run does it make.

Everyone jumps for joy when a Iksar Monk shows up but they have one of the worse XP penalty's on here and few know about it. But they have great DPS and have great Regen. Just play what class and race you like and the heck with it.
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Old 07-14-2013, 09:45 PM
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No. The Monk has a 44% penalty, SK 68% penalty. So the SK will always be a bit behind.
But the people on this thread are saying, the EXP is split differently based on the total amount of EXP a character has gained, meaning that the iksar SK would get a higher cut of the EXP thus causing both characters to level at the same time.
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Old 07-15-2013, 07:25 AM
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But the people on this thread are saying, the EXP is split differently based on the total amount of EXP a character has gained, meaning that the iksar SK would get a higher cut of the EXP thus causing both characters to level at the same time.
I am surely no expert on XP penalty's. But I don't think they level the same.

Lets say a High Elf Cleric and a Iksar SK were in a duo. Both the same level. The Cleric had no penalty and the SK has a 68% penalty. Your telling me that they will level the same. Ok I might say they will share the same XP experience points 50 50 but not level the same. Can't happen. The is what the 68 means. You have to kill 68% more mobs over the Cleric to get to level 60. The amount of mobs extra is a shipot over the long run.

This is why in this game duoing with a friend say 2 or 3 times a week can't work out if one of you is say a Dwarf Warrior with a -10% penalty and a Troll Sk with 68% penalty. By level 20ish the Warrior is level 24 and the SK 19. 30ish Warrior is like 35 SK 27. No XP for the SK anymore and he is getting his ass handed to him on yellow to red mobs and blue to the Warrior. That is why the Hybrid penalty just sucks on here. That is not exact numbers, its just to make a point. But not far off trust me. The ratio should stay the same. In the end the Warrior would be 60 and the SK like 48. Which means the SK has to kill about a million more mobs to get to 60 lol.

The trick on a Hybrid is to always level in high ZeM places and always be the highest person in full groups. You, on paper, get a bigger piece of the pie. Not easy to do day after day though. Or hell, just get power leveled to 60. Lot easier.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:03 PM
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I have personally been in the above situation and can tell you that it is not true. When the Iksar Monk leveled, I had around 1.5 yellows left to level.

Thoughts?

EDIT: I should mention that we did not start at 0% though, I believe we were both 3 blues into level but it was the same % either way.
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Old 07-11-2013, 04:39 PM
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It works extremely simply, I don't know why everyone is pumping out paragraphs to explain it.

The "Penalty" is more experience you have to gain to level.

Level 1 Warrior needs 1000 exp to level to 2.

Level 1 Paladin needs 1400 exp to level to 2.

When grouped, the person who needs more total exp to level up, gains a bigger percentage per kill.

This means whoever is the highest level in a group will usually take the most experience. If they have a "penalty" they will take even more.

EDIT: So ultimately when you are grouping, you want to be the highest level, and have have a "penalty" to get the most experience per kill. If you are the lowest level, and have a "bonus" (Warrior Rogue and Halflings) you actually get a tiny amount of experience.
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Old 07-11-2013, 05:40 PM
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It works extremely simply, I don't know why everyone is pumping out paragraphs to explain it.

The "Penalty" is more experience you have to gain to level.

Level 1 Warrior needs 1000 exp to level to 2.

Level 1 Paladin needs 1400 exp to level to 2.

When grouped, the person who needs more total exp to level up, gains a bigger percentage per kill.

This means whoever is the highest level in a group will usually take the most experience. If they have a "penalty" they will take even more.

EDIT: So ultimately when you are grouping, you want to be the highest level, and have have a "penalty" to get the most experience per kill. If you are the lowest level, and have a "bonus" (Warrior Rogue and Halflings) you actually get a tiny amount of experience.
It's based on total experience earned, as I stated previously. A level 35 war would take a larger percentage of xp than a level 36 war under your scenario.
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Old 07-11-2013, 05:42 PM
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I have personally been in the above situation and can tell you that it is not true. When the Iksar Monk leveled, I had around 1.5 yellows left to level.

Thoughts?

EDIT: I should mention that we did not start at 0% though, I believe we were both 3 blues into level but it was the same % either way.
Were you guys the same level?
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Old 07-11-2013, 05:01 PM
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OK, well every explanation I've heard and read says that two characters who duo with different EXP penalties should level at the same rate. If that doesn't happen then I have no idea why.
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