Game Mechanics: Giant and dragon stuns

[Nirgon]

More logs of non bashes stunning..


Source (oct 2000):

orc centurion hits YOU for 17 points of damage!
orc oracle begins to cast a spell.
LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
You have entered Nektulos Forest.
a young kodiak mauls YOU for 22 points of damage!
LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
You have entered East Commonlands.
orc centurion tries to hit YOU, but misses!
orc legionnaire hits YOU for 26 points of damage!
YOU are stunned!

You tell your guild, "whats this "a dark ritualist pet" by the LFay zone in MM?"
Snero tells the guild, "no idea"
You tell the guild, "must be bugged, I cant attack it or anything"
Your attempt at disarming failed.
Your attempt at disarming failed.
You tell your guild, "hey, it dissapeared...?"
You tell your guild, "HOLY SHHIIT!!!111"
a ghastly ancille hits YOU for 52 points of damage!
You feel your strength drain from you...
a ghastly aegis hits YOU for 61 points of damage!
a leering gargoyle hits YOU for 36 points of damage!
a vampiric ancille hits YOU for 58 points of damage!
YOU are stunned!
a glyphed sentinel hits YOU for 34 points of damage!

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's something Nilbog used as evidence before, these are plane of hate mobs that aren't bashing and still managing to stun on regular melee hits (forsaken revs are casters, no bash... hm!):

http://www.ttlg.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=5043

dude, reality check. according to the logs, the guy is stunned from soemthing (like an AE stun) but not from any hits... look, he is being stunned in intervals without being hit, then one time while was being hit, this is not proof that they are stunning him with melee but rather a spell out of combat range:


[Fri Nov 10 02:34:54 2000] a forsaken revenant says 'You will not evade me Aledar'
[Fri Nov 10 02:34:54 2000] You have been summoned!
[Fri Nov 10 02:34:54 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 66 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:34:54 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 134 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:34:55 2000] Your wounds fade.
[Fri Nov 10 02:34:55 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 71 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:34:55 2000] Your wounds fade.
[Fri Nov 10 02:34:55 2000] Daylife says, 'can i get clarity pls'
[Fri Nov 10 02:34:56 2000] Onei was injured by falling.
[Fri Nov 10 02:34:56 2000] Lyshatin was injured by falling.
[Fri Nov 10 02:34:56 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 61 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:34:56 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:34:56 2000] a forsaken revenant says 'You will not evade me Airal'
[Fri Nov 10 02:34:58 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 97 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:34:58 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 134 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:34:59 2000] Nenelar begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:00 2000] Hydial beams a smile at a forsaken revenant.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:00 2000] Hydial says, 'Ahhh, I feel much better now...'
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:02 2000] Hygiliak shouts, 'I can see my house from here!'
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:02 2000] Dini begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:02 2000] Shalyrra tells the group, 'Now casting REMEDY on Aledar'
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:02 2000] Shalyrra begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:03 2000] You are stunned!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:04 2000] You are unstunned.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:04 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:04 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:05 2000] Your wounds fade.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:05 2000] Your wounds fade.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:06 2000] a forsaken revenant tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:06 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:09 2000] You resist the Sanity Warp spell!!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:10 2000] Shalyrra tells the group, 'Now casting REMEDY on Missie'
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:11 2000] Dini begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:11 2000] Shalyrra begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:13 2000] Missie's wounds fade away.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:14 2000] Missie's wounds fade away.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:15 2000] You are stunned!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:16 2000] You are unstunned.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:18 2000] Prowlerr shouts, 'Target Locked: | an ire ghast | Assist me Now !!!'
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:20 2000] Laylomo says out of character, 'MT female Rev'
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:20 2000] Dini begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:20 2000] You tell your party, 'shoo!'
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:23 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 66 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:23 2000] Your wounds fade.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:24 2000] Shalyrra tells the group, 'Now casting REMEDY on Aledar'
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:24 2000] Shalyrra begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:24 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:24 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 113 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:25 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:26 2000] Gretchin tells the group, 'have to use bathroom brb'
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:26 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 129 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:27 2000] Your wounds fade.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:28 2000] a forsaken revenant tries to hit YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:28 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 118 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:28 2000] a forsaken revenant says 'You will not evade me Aledar'
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:28 2000] You have been summoned!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:29 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 129 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:29 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 113 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:30 2000] a forsaken revenant tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:30 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 118 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:31 2000] a forsaken revenant tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:31 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:32 2000] Shalyrra tells the group, 'Now casting REMEDY on Aledar'
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:32 2000] Shalyrra begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:33 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:33 2000] a forsaken revenant tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:34 2000] a forsaken revenant tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:34 2000] You are stunned!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:34 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:35 2000] Your wounds fade.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:35 2000] Dini begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:35 2000] a forsaken revenant tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:35 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:37 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 108 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:37 2000] You are unstunned.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:38 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 97 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:38 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:38 2000] Your wounds fade.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:38 2000] Nenelar tells the group, 'uh oh....it's gonna come true'
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:39 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:39 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:39 2000] a forsaken revenant says 'You will not evade me Aledar'
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:39 2000] You have been summoned!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:40 2000] Shalyrra tells the group, 'OOM'
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:40 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:40 2000] a forsaken revenant tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:42 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:42 2000] a forsaken revenant tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:43 2000] a forsaken revenant tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:43 2000] a forsaken revenant tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:44 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 51 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:44 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:45 2000] Missie begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:46 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 77 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:46 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:47 2000] Daylife says, 'can i get clarity pls'
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:47 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 97 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:47 2000] a forsaken revenant tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:47 2000] Dini's spell fizzles!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:48 2000] Shalyrra tells the group, 'DINI .. heal him'
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:48 2000] a forsaken revenant tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:48 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 139 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:50 2000] a forsaken revenant hits YOU for 56 points of damage.
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:50 2000] a forsaken revenant tries to hit YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:50 2000] a forsaken revenant says 'You will not evade me Aledar'
[Fri Nov 10 02:35:50 2000] You have been summoned!

[Metallikus]

in fact, is ths from a red server, looks like he is being stunned by his group member's AE stuns.

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More logs of non bashes stunning..


Source (oct 2000):

these arent even logs, these are crops of someone's edited melee chat

[Nirgon]

I can tell you that more than just bash stuns, at least the kick on 55+ war mobs if not already implemented.. there's also the copy/paste from Nilbog regarding giant sized npcs inflicting stuns. I believe red cons may also have a chance to stun on players from less than concrete comments/logs here and there.

[Metallikus]

nilbogs past doesnt say they inflict stuns, itchy bottom only mentioned they had a chance to interupt...which could simply be physical push which is an issue as npc's dont seem to push on this server as they did on live.

[Danth]

Mobs definitely push. I spend nearly my entire P99 life getting hit (being as I play tanks). I have to take a few steps forward every little while in melee. It's actually more evident at lower levels because at high levels you're usually either fighting slowed mobs which obviously push a lot less, or killing stuff so quickly that you don't have time to be pushed very far. This includes raid encounters which are often killed in mere seconds.

Danth

[Dullah]

I thought mobs would stun you from behind with normal melee.

[Nirgon]

Mmm true, these images do not depict positioning and that is quite a valid point. The player in the PoHate parse is not meleeing any of the mobs either, so the positional stun holds.

[Dullah]

Do mobs even stun here from behind? I've never noticed it. I don't just mean bash.

Maybe I'm thinking of WoW or something, but I thought I remembered getting stunned a lot while trying to flee from an NPC.