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Old 06-19-2010, 09:31 AM
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Nice post! 10/10

Even Abacab gets kudos for making me lol.
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Old 06-19-2010, 09:37 AM
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What do you consider to be the minimum value of a rez, what would you consider is a "good" value, and what would you consider to be a "pleasant surprise" in the trade window.

Just curious.
As a point of reference, it takes as much time/mana for me to kill a giant as it does for me to rez a person. An average giant has a plat value of 20-25pp (provided it is not a sand giant that drops a sand of ro that skews things closer to 150p per kill). From a purely fiscal standpoint this would be a nice minimum per corpse I am to rez. Again it comes down to convenience. The closest port to HK still has me spending 12+ minutes to get there. I could run to WC and bag a giant and his respawn faster, so offering 50p for one body in highhold probably won't get me out there. If this is the case I will probably just respond with whether or not I intend to swing by there or not some time that day for reasons of my own. I mean there's other ways I guess it could be measured and valued, by how much plat the individual being rezzed would make in the time you earn a good chunk of that exp back for example, but since that is relative by level, fluctuates greatly based on what you're exp or make cash on, and omits the consideration of those people levelling on twinked alts, I would rather not try and quantify it.

If the amount of plat you need to offer me for a rez is so significant to you, I would rather you just straight up asked for a pity rez and kept the money to buy your spells or put it towards a new piece of gear you need. I would rather people say "this is all I can spare right now" than "this is all I have" -- it makes me feel like an extortionist rather than providing a service. I hope by now most of the server knows me to be neither miserly, nor unreasonable. I get not being able to donate much, and that for a lot of new players on p1999 they might not have a lot of cash to throw around. Asking for pity rezzes is completely legit, and depending on what I have on my plate I might even get around to them. With this in mind, please don't abuse my generosity. If I am in ECT and your group wipes at Orc1, and one or two people forgot to bind in freeport so are a continent away, then yea I will probably do them so you can get your group up and rolling again. This does not mean I will rez the rest of your group that was bound just outside FP gates. Also, just because I rez you once or twice doesn't mean I will necessarily rez you again in a different time or situation. I almost certainly don't want to rez the 42 corpses of your group at Oasis docks.

The more convenient a situation is, the more the line shifts from unnoticed disdain when I click the trade window to "pleasant surprise". If I am doing something like camping something like scryer in uguk so I can get all my alt casters bracelets of woven grass, bring it on down and I will probably do it. 16.5 minutes gives me an awful lot of time, just know that when my mob is due I will be wanting to keep sufficient mana for it. In situations like those pretty much anything is a pleasant surprise because I wouldn't be doing anything else of note. As many have found in the last week while I have been doing guk till my eyes bleed to buy a couple higher value items I require, if I am there and not running a timer on multiple rares because the zone is relatively empty, I usually can and will squeeze you in.
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Old 06-19-2010, 10:05 AM
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on a slightly different but similar topic, no I will not give your level 4 pet in East Commons Symbol of Naltron.
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Old 06-19-2010, 10:17 AM
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haha i really like the necromancer 11 corpses fs dagger part [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 06-19-2010, 10:20 AM
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Omfg clerics, enough with the fn preachin, stfu, and rez, therefore making your asses useful, then ill call u when i need a ch. ok ba bye. Gawd, imagine if i tried to charge 500 plat for every ice comet I cast. And then tried to explain to the group or raid that they are paying for my time, I'd be laughed out of the room.
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Old 06-19-2010, 10:28 AM
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Gawd, imagine if i tried to charge 500 plat for every ice comet I cast. And then tried to explain to the group or raid that they are paying for my time, I'd be laughed out of the room.
Unless it was in part my fault you died and need a rez, I fail to see how this is relevant. You will notice the title of the thread just coincidentally indicates the situation. Raids and grouping is completely different.

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Old 06-19-2010, 10:31 AM
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i love johnny cash
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Old 06-19-2010, 10:38 AM
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That pic is so fucking amazing.
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Old 06-19-2010, 04:26 PM
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Please disclose the following information from the get go:
*The zone it is in.
*The number of corpses to be rezzed (Do not just ask 'Willing to do some rezzes?")
*If not near the zone I am currently in, if a port is provided.
*If it is in an area like Grobb or Ogguk where I potentially require an invis/camo to get in.
*Any associated renumeration or payment, value, donation, etc.
*Any extenuating circumstances why you would like a rez (i.e.: our groupmate who died was dense and forgot to get a bind so now he is on the other continent)

Please do the following:
*Take anon/role off. I am tired of rezzing those who would have made back their exp in less time it takes a reztimer to wear off or me to recover my mana. I am far more inclined to rez you when I know what level you are and what guild you are in.
*Drag any of the aforementioned corpses to an accessible location ahead of my arrival if possible. If I am camping a mob in that same zone, this means bring it to a convenient place near my camp without training me (I do not want to play hide and seek with your corpse).
*Don't accidentally find more corpses you "forgot" about after I arrive. (Happens much more than you would think...)

Please consider the following:
*You are asking (or paying) for my time. The convenience of your request to me will probably have a direct correlation to my response. Please don't be a dick if I say no. Subsequent begging and whining does not increase your odds of it happening any. My playtime is my own, I am not responsible for fixing your mistakes and exp deaths.
*At full mana I have slightly more than enough for 3 90% rezzes. It takes me 14 minutes sitting and with call of bones to get that back.
*If I have my /anon or /role tag on there is the possibility I am hiding from rez requests.
*If you do not receive a response at all when you ask, don't ask again right away. I might have something else to do at that moment that requires my attention and I consider more valuable than a donation or plat. I might be AFK, fighting a mob, engaging in a business transaction or rezzing other people. I generally try and get back to everyone that sends me a tell in game relatively quickly.
Then again I could just be ignoring your request for 11 rezzes for your level 50 Necro in Lower Guk deadside for 25pp and a Fine Steel Dagger(No I am not kidding, I have had that one before).

This may seem like nothing but bitching and whining (which is why I put it in RnF to start with), but every day I get some absolutely ludicrous requests from players that think they are somehow entitled to be immediately rezzed, and that they are doing me some earth-shattering favour by letting me buy a port with my own money and rez them one and a half continents away for 15p -- You're not, drown in a bucket of used douche.

Following these guidelines will make it all the more likely I respond decisively and expediently to any rez requests you have, and will probably work on some of Project1999's other Clerics too.
I agree with 100% of everything in this post.

For a 90% rez I always pay at least 90 plat or so, and I try to ask people a maximum of 2 zones away.
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