Question for GMs: Forward LNS - Page 17

HippoNipple · #**161** 01-23-2015, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if it was 3 guilds doing 1v1v1 against each other, then Fresh could have forced Azrael out. but as Fresh and Holocaust were clearly working in a 2v1, i considered them as part of the same force. and i simply was not going to let the efforts of a guild that was suspended from Fear dictate anything having to do with control of the zone.

So if you followed the rules (that I think need some tweaking) you would have made Azrael leave last night but under your judgement you decided the rules didn't allow for you to make the correct call.

Admitting this is fine, but sitting there bolding and typing in 24 size font like it is clear as day from the written rules is a joke when you forgot to leave out the part about you assuming Fresh and Holocaust were the same guild. The suspension was so Holo couldn't raid Fear. I don't think anyone assumed this meant they couldn't have influence on who won the fight for the raid zone as long as they didn't zone into fear themselves.

Fresh and Holocaust actually have a lot of differences when you look at the leadership of both. They just both set that aside to police the scum of the server since the community has given up on GMs handling it correctly. It isn't like Holocaust actually benefits from Fresh members getting raid targets.

Kergan · #**162** 01-23-2015, 06:07 PM

The rule laywer in me says if no members of Fresh were locked out of Fear then regular rules should have applied to kills by Fresh.

The non-retarded person in me says...come on guys, really?

HippoNipple · #**163** 01-23-2015, 06:09 PM

After reading your signature I realize there is at least one thing Sirken and the community as a whole can agree on.

Buhbuh · #**164** 01-23-2015, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if you followed the rules (that I think need some tweaking) you would have made Azrael leave last night but under your judgement you decided the rules didn't allow for you to make the correct call.

Admitting this is fine, but sitting there bolding and typing in 24 size font like it is clear as day from the written rules is a joke when you forgot to leave out the part about you assuming Fresh and Holocaust were the same guild. The suspension was so Holo couldn't raid Fear. I don't think anyone assumed this meant they couldn't have influence on who won the fight for the raid zone as long as they didn't zone into fear themselves.

Fresh and Holocaust actually have a lot of differences when you look at the leadership of both. They just both set that aside to police the scum of the server since the community has given up on GMs handling it correctly. It isn't like Holocaust actually benefits from Fresh members getting raid targets.

Kergan · #**165** 01-23-2015, 06:27 PM

To be fair Sirken, this is what happens when you create rules for a community without their input. I like the direction you're heading with this guild leader only forum, perhaps this can be the first discussion topic?

daasgoot · #**166** 01-23-2015, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if it was 3 guilds doing 1v1v1 against each other, then Fresh could have forced Azrael out. but as Fresh and Holocaust were clearly working in a 2v1, i considered them as part of the same force. and i simply was not going to let the efforts of a guild that was suspended from Fear dictate anything having to do with control of the zone.

pras it

krazyGlue · #**167** 01-23-2015, 08:05 PM

Let's Zerg . Then complain about the lns rules

Crazycloud · #**168** 01-23-2015, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if you followed the rules (that I think need some tweaking) you would have made Azrael leave last night but under your judgement you decided the rules didn't allow for you to make the correct call.

Admitting this is fine, but sitting there bolding and typing in 24 size font like it is clear as day from the written rules is a joke when you forgot to leave out the part about you assuming Fresh and Holocaust were the same guild. The suspension was so Holo couldn't raid Fear. I don't think anyone assumed this meant they couldn't have influence on who won the fight for the raid zone as long as they didn't zone into fear themselves.

Fresh and Holocaust actually have a lot of differences when you look at the leadership of both. They just both set that aside to police the scum of the server since the community has given up on GMs handling it correctly. It isn't like Holocaust actually benefits from Fresh members getting raid targets.

Sirken too busy on blue then comes on red bringing them blue rules here. This shit is reminding me of classic when gms ruined the server.

Instead of telling people ogre wall is not legit on red99 he goes and abuses his power even tho shit was legit on live.

dontbanpls · #**169** 01-23-2015, 08:26 PM

Still no clear answer to OP after 19 pages these rules obviously written very well

HippoNipple · #**170** 01-23-2015, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by krazyGlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's Zerg . Then complain about the lns rules

The point is to make things better going forward. Yes there is finger pointing when discussing last night but the goal is to make it better for everyone instead of guild vs guild pvp deteriorating into loop holes and petitions. Screw last night, no one should be suspended or banned but it did shed light on a problem and no one wants that problem to develop into an ongoing raid strategy.

Holo having a lot of members isn't relevant.