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Old 12-09-2015, 09:24 PM
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This is true. From what I've read of Nazi economics however, they were dependent on war industry and the seizure of assets to even keep government lights on. Supposedly the regime was on a very short rope financially and had a skyrocketing national debt.

I don't claim to know enough about economics to really fact check a statement like this but if true, it provides a motive for the hurry. Whether they could have sustained their 1939 leads over the world is debatable, to us and perhaps to them at the time.
Operation Barbarossa was undoubtedly their best chance to defeat the Soviet Union, and they came surprisingly close (They encircled and destroyed something like 2 million Soviet soldiers in the opening part of the war).

One thing you have to consider is that it wasn't just Hitler who underestimated Stalin, it was the Allies as well. Given a bit more time, Britain and the US may have been more reluctant to side with the Soviets against Germany for balance of power reasons (which was all they really cared about).

There was also the prospect of a gradual increase in tension between the US and Great Britain, if the British Empire hadn't fallen apart during and after WW2. Interesting to think about.
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Old 12-10-2015, 05:32 AM
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This is true. From what I've read of Nazi economics however, they were dependent on war industry and the seizure of assets to even keep government lights on. Supposedly the regime was on a very short rope financially and had a skyrocketing national debt.

I don't claim to know enough about economics to really fact check a statement like this and separate it from the mountains of propaganda but if true, it provides a motive for the hurry. Whether they could have sustained their 1939 leads over the world is debatable, to us and perhaps to them at the time.
You are going to tell me that I know nothing about World War Two and then a few posts later insinuate that Germany had an economic and scientific lead over the world in 1939?

You need to do some serious research and critical thinking, and stop regurgitating pseudo-history you find on the internet.
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Old 12-10-2015, 06:45 AM
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You are going to tell me that I know nothing about World War Two and then a few posts later insinuate that Germany had an economic and scientific lead over the world in 1939?

You need to do some serious research and critical thinking, and stop regurgitating pseudo-history you find on the internet.
they had a lead in the arms race, nerd. That's in the military/scientific sphere. i've already acknowledged their economy was flagging. and don't tell me your argument that there was no scientific lead in 1939 hinges on leading (german) scientists having emigrated by 1939. German aeronautics and chemistry and pharmacology were all leaps and bounds above the Allies in numerous ways even in 1945, even if there were technologies in the other bloc that the germans didnt share.

You don't have to be so butthurt about your American public school tier understanding of WW2. We've all been there. Although, in my own public school I learned that Nazis were mad scientists with long moustaches and loony superweapons.

Azzar, I'm being a little more coy than I really feel about this, that post is blatant shilling and I have little doubt about it. After witnessing reddit circa Torture Report I am ready to consider the possibility there are shills posting even here and keeping tabs on our macequest activities. I can't read anything, from youtube comments on news-related videos to mainstream algorithmically generated news to any message board larger than this one without the overwhelming sensation of being a mouse in a lab, my click reactions to experimental shilling psyops added to a database for the purpose of cracking the human psyche scientifically.

I haven't seen any good leaks from these scum though, other than the GCHQ dox. We taln bout this? Would be interedasted in seeing how these organizations work and how they define success when they aren't state actors with the ability to pull metadata from facebook.
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:21 PM
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IIf you've taken science classes you've heard these names.
to be fair every angsty teenager who thinks they know everything because of shows like ancient aliens and magical mystery science on the History channel know these names too....
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:31 PM
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I'm sure fat bastard knew exactly what he was talking about and wasn't just attacking Trump.
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Old 12-10-2015, 01:58 AM
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There was a 100,000+ signature in Scotland trying to get Donald Trump banned from there - after some shit went down with him wanting to have a golf course.
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Old 12-10-2015, 03:28 AM
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all trump supporters are unwitting hillary supporters

i just want to see the atomic fireworks, is that so much to ask?
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Old 12-10-2015, 05:18 AM
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all trump supporters are unwitting hillary supporters

i just want to see the atomic fireworks, is that so much to ask?
speaking of hillary check out this shit i saw on a huffpo comments section (lol i know)

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am I tinfoil man or is this shit phony as hell? like seriously, the abs and the race card and the complete insanity partisanship come off as shilling to me so hard that i can't see anything but a robopost. and the guy works at a business address in my home town neighborhood?? is the illumanati sending me a message that they can have my grandmother raped???
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Old 12-10-2015, 05:45 AM
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speaking of hillary check out this shit i saw on a huffpo comments section (lol i know)

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am I tinfoil man or is this shit phony as hell? like seriously, the abs and the race card and the complete insanity partisanship come off as shilling to me so hard that i can't see anything but a robopost. and the guy works at a business address in my home town neighborhood?? is the illumanati sending me a message that they can have my grandmother raped???
No tinfoil needed. Even the small cap private corporations have roboposters and subcontract farmers to shepherd the herd psychology pastures of the internet.

This has been exposed by private hacks of NGOs, and more specifically and recently, private security and private intelligence firms that work with the Chamber of Commerce. Our own government uses roboposting and herd psychology farmers (Dept of Justice was caught recommending to a lobbyist a good intelligence firm to run psyops for them in a series of emails).

Will provide link(s) if interested in smoking gun evidence. Evidence that ultimately resulted in earning a journalist a solid prison sentence for viewing/pooling said emails on a cloud archive for further research, where other journalists/plebs could view them. If you want to step up your perspective on how popular and lucrative herd farmers could be, this Chamber scandal I referenced is a good place to start. I'm not citing it because I don't have it offhand, and its technically off-topic, but just say the word Big J.

Before I even read your commentary, the spider sense had already gone off about 2/3 of the way through reading that comment. "Inorganic" would be a good start to describe the feeling.
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Old 12-10-2015, 04:29 PM
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all trump supporters are unwitting hillary supporters
True words...

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