A regular and casual raiding day on P99.

[Razdeline]

Originally Posted by Beaniron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All I'm saying is that people shouldn't be denied from serious progression raiding simply because they're not a member of TMO, FE, or BDA (I know BDA does serious raiding, or at least used to).

And that's where the social interaction comes in. Do you have the Time to raid, and get what you need? Maybe you can make friends with some of the members from these guilds if you don't, and they can help you get an epic. I have heard of stories like this happening in the past, and it's ultimately not a far fetched idea.

[August]

i think instancing in and of itself is fine. I prefer the classic WoW or LDON model though:

Find LFG people
Travel to zone in
Zone in -> Do instance
Gate out, or run it again cuz you made some new friends


Now it's.

Log in
Click Button
Run around smashing your head against keyboard
Ninja loot everything NEED
Click Button Again - Rinse and Repeat

I wouldn't instance the raid mobs, though, or if I did the prizes would be scaled down version of the non-instanced. a 28% CoF instead of whatever it is, etc. Kind of like an 'easy mode' to the encounters, much like the 'LFR' system that goes on in WoW today. Except I wouldn't be in favor of dumbing them down, and I'd probably make it so that you can only queue for it once a week, or something like that.

That actually sounds awesome, now that I think about it. What were we talking about again?

[Uggme]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and congratulations! =)

Everyone plays to their own style and thats fine its what makes this game great, however when you reach max level have full planar and your epic then what? retire until velious? make a new char and do it again?

Progression stops at planar unless your in tmo fe. Guilds before tmo and fe had set the precedent and its insane. Texting 40 people to wake up at 2:36am because a dragon spawned is some hardcore dedication.

It would just be nice to casually attempt these mobs, honestly spawn them with NO LOOT and you would still see the same ridiculous "competition" between the high end guilds because they need to say i won im better. i could almost guarantee that casual guilds would be ecstatic if devs spawned lootless bosses just to do them for the experience for the nostalgia for the fun. I know I would, but theres more to this than pixels for me

You and I differ on a lot of things, but I agree with all of this. I too believe that a bad precedent has been set from early on and there's a cycle of destructive behavior simply propagating itself now.

Setting your own goals and not worrying about the bullshit is a sure-fire way to have an amazing time. Seeing as a level 30 SK is as far as I've gotten, I'll be keeping my own goals in mind while climbing the exp ladder.

It will certainly be fun!

P.S - It would be amazing to be able to defeat raid encounters that drop 0 loot for the nostalgia factor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Beaniron]

Originally Posted by Razdeline [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And that's where the social interaction comes in. Do you have the Time to raid, and get what you need? Maybe you can make friends with some of the members from these guilds if you don't, and they can help you get an epic. I have heard of stories like this happening in the past, and it's ultimately not a far fetched idea.

That's probably what I'll end up having to do. Thankfully nothing in the Fiery Avenger/Defender quest requires a full raid force to take down, or is camped very often. One of the few benefits of playing a Paladin.

[Razdeline]

Hollar when you need help.

[Beaniron]

Originally Posted by Razdeline [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hollar when you need help.

I'm level 18, so it's a long ways off, haha. But having Ghoulbane and SoulFire already (as well as maxed Deepwater Knight faction) saves me quite a bit of work later. I'm saving my money right now for a Book of Scale.

Also, this made me lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYQdmLgc71Q

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Uggme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You and I differ on a lot of things, but I agree with all of this.

makes you feel a little dirty doesn't it? =)

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Beaniron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, this made me lol

These are kind of funny until you get up there and every raid is like this then its just...

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[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Progression stops at planar unless your in tmo fe. Guilds before tmo and fe had set the precedent and its insane. Texting 40 people to wake up at 2:36am because a dragon spawned is some hardcore dedication.

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usually FE tops at 25ish, TMO pushes 40.. so thats 65+ people being txt'd at 2:36am mister! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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usually FE tops at 25ish, TMO pushes 40.. so thats 65+ people being txt'd at 2:36am mister! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and thats just 2 guilds! imagine if there were 5-6 competing raid guilds. there are certainly enough people on the server no where near the dedication though