GG DA

[Thatguy05]

Another_random_guy trying to figure out why this guild gets punished for one person cheating and not any other raiding guilds in which one was caught cheating/training/exploting whatever.

Only thing searched under suspensions, DA is the only guild that comes up suspended as a guild, out of 50ish suspension posts..

[sobchak123]

Originally Posted by Thatguy05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another_random_guy trying to figure out why this guild gets punished for one person cheating and not any other raiding guilds in which one was caught cheating/training/exploting whatever.

Only thing searched under suspensions, DA is the only guild that comes up suspended as a guild, out of 50ish suspension posts..

Virtuosos, an IB Paladin admitted that he uses Show EQ on these forums

Xzerion is the guild leader of IB. He's also a developer. He abused his developer powers to change the dynamic of a raid encounter in order to benefit his guild.

We're waiting for the guild raid suspension to be handed out at any time guys.

[M.Bison]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, if DA are a bunch of hackers, and we all know about it....in the words of Jason Issacs as Lucious Malfoy: "Why dont you PROVE IT"

OR hell, i'll even give YOU the easy way out...cause trolling is soo easy, but its hard to actually come up with something. You can even let the GM's do all the work. Ok, so SO far, 2 people in DA have been banned for cheating. Both caught by GMs. Now im waiting for your numbers.

Wut? Did this make sense to anyone?

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just out of curiosity, I asked a friend in DA to check on this statistic for me since I know you guys keep pretty accurate records of raid attendance for loot council purposes...

...36% and 80% are not the same thing. Just sayin'.

Considering DA has cleared planer trash 2-3 times a day and DKP is being added up upon the hour... if you miss 1-2 days of raiding Planar trash, it can really skew the attendance percentage.

I'd say Mountaineer has been to approx 80% of the non-planar trash raids. Regardless, why is this even be discussed?

[Thatguy05]

Originally Posted by sobchak123 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Virtuosos, an IB Paladin admitted that he uses Show EQ on these forums

Xzerion is the guild leader of IB. He's also a developer. He abused his developer powers to change the dynamic of a raid encounter in order to benefit his guild.

We're waiting for the guild raid suspension to be handed out at any time guys.

So, your saying IB has also been banned as a whole from raiding because of one member?

OR
That since the GM/Developer is in the guild, they can get away with such things?

Also "hellfire" noted that DA got 6/7 raid mobs.. maybe the IB developers way of getting back at DA ? Something this little of one member cheating = suspending the whole guild had to be conversated about amongst the head GM's you would think.

[bluejam]

Originally Posted by Rallyd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Explain to me what this "huge" upper hand is, because I'm pretty sure there isn't one besides being able to track without track.

Heard you can display loot on mobs. I don't know if that's true, but it would make clearing planes with surgical precision very appealing. Seen it before, maybe it was coincidence.

[Mountaineer]

If you actually listened to anything everyone has said in this thread...DA sux.....we have no surgical precise, even if we used hax

[thefloydian]

Originally Posted by hellfire [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lets see if any of you other guilds have the sack to keep IB from geting all the bosses this week.

YEAH MAN! LET'S SEE IF THOSE GUILDS HAVE THE SACK BRO!

[thefloydian]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, if DA are a bunch of hackers, and we all know about it....in the words of Jason Issacs as Lucious Malfoy: "Why dont you PROVE IT"

OR hell, i'll even give YOU the easy way out...cause trolling is soo easy, but its hard to actually come up with something. You can even let the GM's do all the work. Ok, so SO far, 2 people in DA have been banned for cheating. Both caught by GMs. Now im waiting for your numbers.

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[Alienorg]

Originally Posted by Molitoth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trimm, I really respect your guild and like you as a player.... although this time around, a new recruit was caught using macroquest in lowerguk. It had nothing to do with anything raid related. We have many many people with druids/rangers/fiend death on the track team.

Suspending people in the guild that have done nothing but play this game without cheating is really hurting. I know most people not in DA hate DA... and there is something to be said about that. But, there are a LOT of good/nice/classy players in DA that are getting treated unfairly due to a couple bad apples that always seem to find thier way into a DA tag. Personally, I feel bad for DA leadership who have to consistantly deal with these morons.

Trust me, there is nobody that hates these cheaters MORE than the good people in DA. Our reputation is getting ruined by a bunch of douchebags who want to cheat on an 11 year old emulated game, and it's quite pathetic.

I would say that if your guild gets ban for cheating (cheating for a raid lvl encounter) then if anyone in your guild gets caught cheating (using the same program/type of cheat) in any way even if it isn't for a raid lvl encounter then yes I feel maybe the entire guild should feel the pain again.

There are always going to be bad people and they will find ways to get into good guilds but as a guild u have to try your best to prevent this. ie: making it hard to get into your guild/disbanding people in your guild that you find are doing something wrong or you will have to suffer for the faults of your members as a whole.

I'd say to the good people in DA, that maybe they should get together and make a new guild and just start over and maybe be a bit little stricter on who u let into your guild. with over 100(no clue on how many active members DA has) people and a lot of those people being new, anything is possible.

Im glad the GM's are doing something, its a start atleast.