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Old 09-04-2013, 12:44 AM
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"The future" is a long time, isn't it? Nobody said it would be anytime soon.

Making sure they have an accurate timeline down for content we are already past has exactly ZERO to do with coding. They know they are, at some point, going to launch another server. And I know it and so do you.

They just have very good reasons not to say that they will, or when, because it's probably not something they are even close to considering yet, and saying so could affect the health of this server. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by them to announce such a thing right now. We don't even have velious yet.
The feature allowing them to turn things on and off easily has everything to do with good coding practice. And no-one knows anything of the sort. If Sirken says there is zero chance (at this point), I'm going to take his word over yours or mine or any other forumquester. Another server doubles their CSR load - something Sirken has said is intimidating enough not to consider.

But meh, my real question was was this all hypothetical, and I guess that's been answered, so carry on!
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:05 AM
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The feature allowing them to turn things on and off easily has everything to do with good coding practice. And no-one knows anything of the sort. If Sirken says there is zero chance (at this point), I'm going to take his word over yours or mine or any other forumquester. Another server doubles their CSR load - something Sirken has said is intimidating enough not to consider.

But meh, my real question was was this all hypothetical, and I guess that's been answered, so carry on!
"In the event we open another server from the beginning, it behooves us to create on/off switches for those times."

If it was about "good coding practice" he would have said that. The "times" he was talking about have already passed on this timeline. They are completing the code because they know they are going to need it in the future.

Obviously none of us know anything. It would be silly to think that we are getting a new blue server anytime soon. Velious is still, probably, a ways off. Yeah people are predicting this winter, but they were doing that last year, too. But it's also naive as shit to think that there will NEVER be one. They've said multiple times that it's always been a consideration. It just isn't right now. No sane person would go to all of this trouble, to this degree of detail, and never do it again on a proper timeline. I say, again, "classic" here wasn't remotely classic. But it will be when they get it all done.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:32 AM
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Problem as I see it is, do anybody know if Team Nilbog actually operate more structured as SoE ?

I mean can they actually create a Classic server today with the correct things enabled and disabled at a stage close to when EQ started in 99?

Or do they operate as SoE did, just fixing things without any kind of version checking ?

I Remember that when SoE started their timeline servers they excused themself for not making the game classic, that they didn't had any documentation or game builds that made them able to restore functionality to a certain stage, so they just took the game as it was in 2008 and turned all expansions off
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:39 PM
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...and don't forget simulated server downtime (probably retrievable through original news/patch notes). For a truly classic experience we need to remember when EQ was unplayable for 16 hours a day, and when scheduled maintenance occurred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bet you "classic" folks don't actually want true classic.
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:50 AM
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...and don't forget simulated server downtime (probably retrievable through original news/patch notes). For a truly classic experience we need to remember when EQ was unplayable for 16 hours a day, and when scheduled maintenance occurred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bet you "classic" folks don't actually want true classic.
Not counting after the 16 hours of downtime it took 2 to 3 more hours to patch the damn thing with dial up. Wow I hated that with a passion. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:09 AM
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Not counting after the 16 hours of downtime it took 2 to 3 more hours to patch the damn thing with dial up. Wow I hated that with a passion. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
A very good point. The "classic" crowd just went silent I think...else we should be simulating it after a patch to relive those classic moments.
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:41 PM
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And those downtimes included full server repops btw folks
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:54 PM
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They did ^^
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:12 PM
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If i was nilbog damn right i would want to open a new server once everything is set in a propertimeline but i sure as hell wouldn't tell anyone that cause then as soon as velious was "done" people would be screaming for the NEW server. Personally if went through all this work of coding etc i would want to actually then play the server the way it was ment to be played from the beginning with proper timelines for everything while not having to worry about dev work at the same time.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:07 PM
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100% satisfied with the server and ruleset. Anxiously awaiting Velious.
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