Big Stuff Coming Next Patch !

[Nirgon]

WoW totems were like that

[Phats]

Originally Posted by Faerie Blossom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is no one else excited about the prospect of the proposed pvp changes coming with this patch?

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not true sir. Undead that had only been proximity agro'd would switch targets to whichever KOS & non-IVU player in agro range they were closest to (well, actually, they would start with any sitting chars in agro range, sit agro was a bitch.) Spectres in Oasis that were trained past other players (with proximity agro only) would happily gib a player, or two, or six, or twenty, and then resume chasing the player that had trained them if still in the zone. Because of that you could often tell when it was a deliberate train in Oasis, tho the guides (and some GMs) seemed just as clueless as the newbs who got slaughtered. Classic undead agro also made Unrest on live a lot more dangerous than it is on this server.

This right here. Could not say it better myself. Now to find some wayback confirming this.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not true sir. Undead that had only been proximity agro'd would switch targets to whichever KOS & non-IVU player in agro range they were closest to (well, actually, they would start with any sitting chars in agro range, sit agro was a bitch.) Spectres in Oasis that were trained past other players (with proximity agro only) would happily gib a player, or two, or six, or twenty, and then resume chasing the player that had trained them if still in the zone. Because of that you could often tell when it was a deliberate train in Oasis, tho the guides (and some GMs) seemed just as clueless as the newbs who got slaughtered. Classic undead agro also made Unrest on live a lot more dangerous than it is on this server.

This is accurate. If you merely proximity aggro'd undead - i.e. you didn't debuff or damage them - and ran them into another player, they would attack that player.

I'm going out on a limb on this one, but I remember it was also true with certain weird classes of mobs that were KOS to all - such as sand giants, cyclops, I *think* griffins were also a part of this, etc. It wasn't the case with bears, wolves, guards, etc...

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now... why is it that dragon aoe's like Quarm's go through walls on EQ Mac but Vox/Naggy breaths are blocked by them here?

I remember getting feared by Vox in Kunark pre 52 cap from down the ramp unless I was way OOR.

DirectX IIRC

[Ambrotos]

You could also bandage people and transfer agro. That was changed in luclin due to a work around getting to the Snake Emp with out keys.

[Hawala]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would they want to break tracking?

Rangers are supposed to be the only master trackers.

[Jellob_Iafra]

Originally Posted by Vondra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's better to go ahead and just recreate as closely as possible.

Yeah, there's a laundry list of things that are obnoxious and it'd probably be more fun without, but making decisions on stuff like that is the first step towards just deciding things on a whim based on what you think the game should and shouldn't have.

please remove variance..for better or worse its not classic and this is a classic everquest server

[Hasbinbad]

if undead didn't switch aggro, fansy would have been much less hilarious.

[Ambrotos]

Didnt he do the same thing with sand giants?

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didnt he do the same thing with sand giants?

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Never ever seen close to that many sand giants on P99 in Oasis.