Do P99 Devs, GMs and Guides Have Jobs?

[bubur]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is very little to no impetus for me to be polite, or subtle, or likeable, since I did all that with my other account and it was banned regardless.

misunderstood. thought you meant a game account

carry on ranting

[khanable]

Originally Posted by bubur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they're 'volunteers.' they dont make any money from p99, despite what a lot of people claim about RMT

they have, however, accepted responsibility to adhere to a specific set of guidelines as to what being a volunteer 'guide' or 'gm' is able and suppose to do. if these guidelines are not followed, ie they fail to do their volunteer 'job', then they will be removed from the volunteer team, as has happened in the past to some of them

that being said, they do the best they can without making any money for the love of everquest and for the enjoyment of responsibility over the project itself.

they also have actual jobs. those are not related to p99

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[Strifer]

Originally Posted by Ephi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would have a hard time buying they would be good at staff because of their personal connections (and distastes) for much of their peers. Staff requires a certain disconnection from all the bullshit drama that occurs in RNF. Even though a lot of it is just for fun, those perceptions will carry into staff, and we can't have it. Also, the perception that we don't take this seriously is a little funny. Why would I do something as a volunteer for 10+ hours a week that I don't take seriously?

Welp there goes my shot.

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Give it another year. I'd be absolutely shocked if you didn't have a little bit more to say about the totally non-responsive and ever-disappointing Staff after that.

I say what I say with 2.5 years of P99 experience. When you have also put that amount of effort into this server, to see years of favoritist policies and GM decisions consistently in favor of TMO, you may then criticize my approach.

I've beeen here longer than you. Can i criticize your ridiculous opinions?

[Uggme]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, because I'm much smarter than you as evidenced by your typos and syntax errors.

This makes even less sense that usual, which is saying a lot.

[Droog007]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sigh, you guys.

Do you say "sigh" in real life?

I do ... just curious.

[August]

This server is free to play on. It's their rules.

Honestly, staff COULD be corrupt and RMT and make profit and whatever the hell they want. Someone is paying for hosting. They are providing a service, which they don't charge for. If they profit, that's their business. The fact that the server is so popular that there is RMT going on is a testament to how desirable this server is to play on.

You have no skin in the game. You have invested time into something that was given to you for free. Nobody owes you anything. They could shut down tomorrow and you lose all your characters and plat and there's not a single thing you can do. You have no contract. You have nothing at stake beyond your own time that you willingly gave for your own enjoyment.

If they started charging a monthly fee, then you have a right to bitch and moan. Don't like the end game? then don't play the end game. Don't like the server? Don't play on the server. You have no obligations here. Staff also have no obligations - they are volunteers - not paid. They owe nothing to you.

Take Ephi here - he says he spends 10 hours a week on this project. He works as a technical consultant at a large international firm. I bet his time billed out is at least 150/hr if he works with external partners - if he's an internal bill it may be even more. But let's say he may only get half of that. That's 750/week he's putting into the server. That's 3k/month. That's 36k/yr. What are you putting in besides complaining on the forum?

Don't devalue time spent. Don't pretend like you're owed anything, because you're not.

[kank]

Well said.

[August]

Originally Posted by odiecat99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what I got from all that August was "blah blah blah server gms are gods blah blah blah who cares if donation money pays for vechicles blah blah blah you are OWED NOTHING I TELL YOU , NOTHING blah blah /QQ"

You obviously have nothing intelligible or coherent to add to the discussion. If you'd like to add a counterpoint on why you are owed something, by all means please do go ahead.

Oh and FWIW - Volunteer Firefighters - at least where I'm from, do get paid a stipend per-call, usually about 100 dollars.

Source: my father was a volunteer firefighter.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So does anyone on the P99 staff have a job? If they're not getting paid, then the answer is no. They're volunteers. The RnF trolls shouting about staff not doing their jobs are not only rude and ungrateful, they're also factually incorrect.

I have a real life job; IT Director of my company.

My 'job' for p99 is spending my free time how I see fit. When I started the project, my goal was to recreate classic everquest so that it may exist somewhere. That continues to be my goal.

It (classic eq) continues to be lost over time as archived pages and historical information vanish.

Visitors to this museum in progress may litter or complain about posted rules, but it doesn't change the objective.