A Word of Warning to the New (and Naive)

[Lojik]

Sorry that the account you bought got banned, but in no way can I disagree with the GM's on the decision. You can say that you didn't know their policy on account trades, but it's clearly listed on the site and ignorance to the rules of the server (that is free mind you) is no excuse at all. You are able to play on this server by the good grace of the coders, devs, and GM's alone. I know right after it happens it's probably hard to see anything but your side of the situation, but hopefully in a week you'll realize why their policies are the way they are. If you still can't see their side after that time, perhaps this is not the right place for you.

[Systolic]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry that the account you bought got banned, but in no way can I disagree with the GM's on the decision. You can say that you didn't know their policy on account trades, but it's clearly listed on the site and ignorance to the rules of the server (that is free mind you) is no excuse at all. You are able to play on this server by the good grace of the coders, devs, and GM's alone. I know right after it happens it's probably hard to see anything but your side of the situation, but hopefully in a week you'll realize why their policies are the way they are. If you still can't see their side after that time, perhaps this is not the right place for you.

But the bottom line is that I didn't do anything banworthy, and I was banned. I see the inherent issue with account trade. I get it.

However, its not bannable, and I was banned for something I didn't do that IS banworthy. Thats the problem.

[Danth]

Given how P1999 detects third-party program use, if the account was flagged odds are the program was in use. If the owner was concurrently running another eqemulator for a server that permits usage of that particular program, the account will get flagged on P1999.

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According to all discussion, you weren't personally banned. Rather, your contraband character that you obtained was banned. It sucks, but that's precisely the correct judgment call for a tainted account. Look at it the other way around; allowing exceptions based on change of ownership opens up an avenue to easily launder tainted accounts.

Danth

[fullmetalcoxman]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But the bottom line is that I didn't do anything banworthy, and I was banned. I see the inherent issue with account trade. I get it.

However, its not bannable, and I was banned for something I didn't do that IS banworthy. Thats the problem.

You weren't banned, the account was. It sucks that you didn't understand the risks, but that doesn't invalidate the rules.

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by fullmetalcoxman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You weren't banned, the account was. It sucks that you didn't understand the risks, but that doesn't invalidate the rules.

Exactly. While not against the rules per se, you engaged in behavior not condoned by the staff, and it is quite explicit as to the possible consequences of engaging in such behavior. You engaged in a risky, unprotected trade and got burned. Basically the policy says "Don't do this, because shit can happen and if it does we will not help you out." Shit happened, and they ain't helping you out.

[Emphase]

some people have it way worse, trading their account for another then having it be banned. you're basically complaining over a free account that was banned.
and why would you have to start all over, didn't you have your own account that you played with your friend? why can't you use those characters to play, it will be just like before he gave you the account.

[Systolic]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly. While not against the rules per se, you engaged in behavior not condoned by the staff, and it is quite explicit as to the possible consequences of engaging in such behavior. You engaged in a risky, unprotected trade and got burned. Basically the policy says "Don't do this, because shit can happen and if it does we will not help you out." Shit happened, and they ain't helping you out.

Did you not read my OP? I'm not trying to get pity. I know that I took a risk, and I got screwed.. It doesn't mean the judgement is just.

[Systolic]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Given how P1999 detects third-party program use, if the account was flagged odds are the program was in use. If the owner was concurrently running another eqemulator for a server that permits usage of that particular program, the account will get flagged on P1999.

Worst case scenario here would be if Chtulu were using MQ2 on another server (not p99), got flagged on P99, sold the account because he legitimately wanted to, and then I got banned on accident.

That actually might be a possibility here, and if so, it really does make their system ridiculous, even for primary account holders.

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Worst case scenario here would be if Chtulu were using MQ2 on another server (not p99), got flagged on P99, sold the account because he legitimately wanted to, and then I got banned on accident.

That actually might be a possibility here, and if so, it really does make their system ridiculous, even for primary account holders.

They've said before that false positives like that are no longer a possibility.

Anyway, I think we should all let this thread die. OP lost the account that was purchased, and now is upset about it. This is understandable, but we all know the GM decision was made for the greater good of the server. There's nothing more to discuss.

Unfortunate for OP, but that's the way things go when you play with fire :/

[Systolic]

Well I want to see if Chtulu will actually refund me. If he does I will stay. If not, I'm gone.