A Word of Warning to the New (and Naive)

[fullmetalcoxman]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But the bottom line is that I didn't do anything banworthy, and I was banned. I see the inherent issue with account trade. I get it.

However, its not bannable, and I was banned for something I didn't do that IS banworthy. Thats the problem.

You weren't banned, the account was. It sucks that you didn't understand the risks, but that doesn't invalidate the rules.

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by fullmetalcoxman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You weren't banned, the account was. It sucks that you didn't understand the risks, but that doesn't invalidate the rules.

Exactly. While not against the rules per se, you engaged in behavior not condoned by the staff, and it is quite explicit as to the possible consequences of engaging in such behavior. You engaged in a risky, unprotected trade and got burned. Basically the policy says "Don't do this, because shit can happen and if it does we will not help you out." Shit happened, and they ain't helping you out.

[Systolic]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly. While not against the rules per se, you engaged in behavior not condoned by the staff, and it is quite explicit as to the possible consequences of engaging in such behavior. You engaged in a risky, unprotected trade and got burned. Basically the policy says "Don't do this, because shit can happen and if it does we will not help you out." Shit happened, and they ain't helping you out.

Did you not read my OP? I'm not trying to get pity. I know that I took a risk, and I got screwed.. It doesn't mean the judgement is just.

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you not read my OP? I'm not trying to get pity. I know that I took a risk, and I got screwed.. It doesn't mean the judgement is just.

This is not your server. By playing on this server you are agreeing to the rules. These rules are there for a reason, and you are failing to see past your own viewpoint here. For instance, if they unban this account what would stop people in the future from cheating and then selling the account, with both buyer and seller knowing that a cheating program was used? You could still argue "but I wasn't the one that cheated." It doesn't matter.

The OP and the tone of the rest of the thread are a bit different. The OP appears to be a PSA warning people against account buying, which is good. But then in the rest of the thread you are upset that a GM won't unban this account, when you said in your original post "I know what I did wrong" and "I just made this post so that maybe someone else out there will avoid my fate." This account will not and should not be unbanned, and I don't possibly see how the GM's could force C to refund you.

If Chtulu didn't cheat, he's definitely not going to refund you. If he did cheat and then knowingly sell you the account, do you really think he's gonna be the bigger man and give you your plat back? If he did cheat and sell you the account, are you really going to base your decision on whether or not to stay on whether a jerk gives you your plat back? Why give him that power? Be the bigger man.

[Systolic]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Be the bigger man.

I am. That's why I am leaving. I don't agree with the policies. I don't agree with the decision made by the GMs, I don't agree with the fact that Chtulu got almost 50k and a Tier Dal set for my getting essentially reset in exchange.

Your condescension isn't warranted or needed. Perhaps my tone changed a bit because arrogant, trenchant douchebags decided to come into a thread in which I was trying to provide a warning to benefit everyone else and derailed it by attacking my character for buying an account.

Now please, get out of this thread. You've said your piece, I've said mine, and you have nothing more constructive to contribute.

[Danth]

If you unknowingly buy contraband or stolen goods, you don't get to keep it once discovered. Same idea here on P1999 for the same reasons. You're essentially a victim of fraud. It's commonplace for the buyer to be the biggest loser in such cases.

You can, however, apply pressure to the seller if you know who he is. I'm sure defrauding players is against some rule or another. Maybe he'll claim he let his "friend" play the account before selling it to you.

P1999's detection method is highly unlikely to return false positives in this area.

Danth

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am. That's why I am leaving. I don't agree with the policies. I don't agree with the decision made by the GMs, I don't agree with the fact that Chtulu got almost 50k and a Tier Dal set for my getting essentially reset in exchange.

Your condescension isn't warranted or needed. Perhaps my tone changed a bit because arrogant, trenchant douchebags decided to come into a thread in which I was trying to provide a warning to benefit everyone else and derailed it by attacking my character for buying an account.

Now please, get out of this thread. You've said your piece, I've said mine, and you have nothing more constructive to contribute.

Sorry if I am coming off as arrogant. I still think you should maybe take a little time off before you make the decision to leave completely, and I really don't think making that decision on whether or not the dude refunds you is the way to go. You've already gotten many responses from people who will help you out, so you may even come out of this on top by making more friends in game.