not a single player has told me to plan on raiding

[freez]

ahh. i remember back when i played blue.

i got to kill all the dragons and gods.. shits boring with a zerg.

so glad red doesnt have these kinds of problems.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, you're just wrong here.

100% of the time, repops have been reported to result in more loot for non-TMO guilds than is average for Variance.

So what do you have to say to this exactly?

what guilds got any of the important mobs? tmo will get the mobs they want on server repops and every single time they have with the exception of FE getting some kills. no other guild on the server has gotten a "significant" raid target on a server repop. the closest one was talendor to divinity.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think that if you thought about it for approximately eight seconds, that the complete fairness-to-time-invested ratio that FTE allows is completely contradictory to your statement, since Variance inequitably rewards those who have a larger guild, as opposed to those who spent more time attempting to accomplish the reward.

showing up 2 minutes prior to a mob spawning is not time invested. variance enables those who have the desire to go after mobs to structure their guilds in a way that allows them to compete.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When I said a "mobilization contest" I was in fact, referring to everything that goes into mobilization. That included tracking, having multiple characters parked in multiple places, responding to bat phones etc. Sorry I didn't go into depth with my response.

Having characters ready to be at any location certainly is a part of mobilization. I can see you guys are really grasping now.

I don't think you understood my post at all. I didn't post that in a grammar nazi 'haha you forgot this' way. I posted it it 'you are taking some of the most fucking retarded gameplay on the planet and covering it up under the term mobilization' way.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In that the largest guilds are able to compete the best? I'm sorry but, that is not Classic and should not be in any emulator of EverQuest.

FE is no larger in it's current state than bda/div/FC/rapture/etc. Comments? The larger guilds you talk about are also more organized and more motivated to compete the best which is entirely classic.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think you understood my post at all. I didn't post that in a grammar nazi 'haha you forgot this' way. I posted it it 'you are taking some of the most fucking retarded gameplay on the planet and covering it up under the term mobilization' way.

you are discounting the fact there is legit mobilization for quite a few major targets. yes it still requires tracking, but it doesn't involve having people camped right at raid targets.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wouldn't the fact that guilds show up to these contested FTE spawns be proof in your mind that they are organized?

Just because there aren't 100+ people in the guild, Tracking mob spawns throughout a TOTALLY UNCLASSIC 128-hour period, they don't deserve a CHANCE at the loot?

The only thing that Variance does is allot a disproportionately higher chance to the enormous Tracking guilds (whose only purpose is to take advantage of Variance) that they will be the ones to eventually down the mob.

you just state that the reason other guilds couldn't compete was because they can't compete with the zerg. FE is no larger than any of those other guilds I listed and still gets some raid targets. Your assumption is wrong. You could have a guild of 1,000 people and still miss raid targets if people don't know what they are doing and are not organized.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FE is larger, better mobilized, and better equipped than your average guild.

What this means in terms of FTE is that FE would get FTE more than the average guild per SKILL. Which is absolutely Classic and in line with their stated policies.

What this SHOULD NOT MEAN is that FE gets more than the average guild per POPULATION. Which is exactly what Variance does. It de-promotes competition in that only the largest guilds can compete with the Tracking and Mobilization onto targets. This never existed in Classic and is an arbitrary and artificial mechanic to promote TMO on this server.

we have about 40-50 active players so wrong again.

better geared because we attempt to get mobs not sit on the forums and complain about how unfair life is.

[freez]

no variance on red.

could you imagine?

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was right there with you guys a few months ago. The real difference is that I'm not complaining about how unfair life in general is, but how unfair Variance in specific is. FE would get a lot more important loots without Variance and I do not believe that your leadership is inured to the status quo enough to say otherwise.

i'd rather quit playing than play in your proposed server where the winner is the first person to hit a mob regardless if their raid force was sufficient etc. have fun with that. if FE gets important loots its because we earned it not because we whined until rules were changed to give us a chance.