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Old 05-28-2013, 08:04 PM
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There is far more proof that God exists then he doesn't. Advanced molecular machinery existing is plenty of evidence for a supremely intelligent being existing. DNA is the most advanced thing known to exist in the entire universe. There is also zero evidence it can form naturally(see cell theory and law of biogenesis and the laws of thermodynamics). There is also zero evidence that one species can become another entirely proving that each life form was created uniquely and individually from one another.



I don't think he ever really gave up on it and it certainly wasn't a fantasy as it is verified by many ancient texts. I also never said it proves God just that if you consider how intelligent he was and the fact that he believed in God, it's kinda ridiculous to sweep his opinions under the rug so easily. The fact that he is one of the smartest men to have ever lived in the history and entirety of the human race should say something. He has done more for science and the world as a whole that you could if you lived to 1,000. Considering how intelligent he was I think it's safe to say he might have known what he was talking about in regards to God.
I tried to count the logical fallacies in this post and got exhausted. It's really quite remarkable to see a mind this dysfunctional. Isn't this the RMT guy who bragged about it and lost 400K and his high level rogue? That seems like proof of idiocy.
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:13 PM
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I tried to count the logical fallacies in this post and got exhausted. It's really quite remarkable to see a mind this dysfunctional. Isn't this the RMT guy who bragged about it and lost 400K and his high level rogue? That seems like proof of idiocy.
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:33 PM
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Why are you wasting your time arguing with Nocturne? He is a classic case of Schrodinger's "not even wrong", i.e. someone who simply doesn't understand the philosophy of knowledge and how to determine correct from incorrect. He believes things because he was told them by his parents; from an evolutionary perspective its not a bad strategy as tradition gets a lot of things right, but the existence of God is not one of them. In order to convince him that he is wrong, you would have to start from the beginning and explain Hume/Popper, null hypotheses, and the whole scientific method to him, and he probably wouldn't believe that either.
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:54 PM
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You're not real clear on this idea of proof, are you? Try this: Russell's teapot
Actually, look what thread we are in. The burden of proof lies upon you and all other unintelligent people who deny the existence of God by simply going to Wikipedia and searching for truth.
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:01 PM
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Actually, look what thread we are in. The burden of proof lies upon you and all other unintelligent people who deny the existence of God by simply going to Wikipedia and searching for truth.
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:05 PM
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Actually, look what thread we are in. The burden of proof lies upon you and all other unintelligent people who deny the existence of God by simply going to Wikipedia and searching for truth.
Unlike you, I understand the origin of *Dyēus ph2ter, the god of the day sky, in the proto-Indo-European religions. Like many things that small minds obsess about, God is a social construct. You can continue to dream this particular delusion, or you can choose to move toward a more accurate understanding of reality. Honestly, it's all the same to me.

Your arguments all break down to this standard form:

The universe is very complicated
Science cannot explain every detail
Therefore God exists.

This thinking is so lazy as to be pathetic. Abstracting a cause outside the realm of reality is not an explanation. It's burying your head in the sand.
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:06 PM
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Unlike you, I understand the origin of *Dyēus ph2ter, the god of the day sky, in the proto-Indo-European religions. Like many things that small minds obsess about, God is a social construct. You can continue to dream this particular delusion, or you can choose to move toward a more accurate understanding of reality. Honestly, it's all the same to me.

Your arguments all break down to this standard form:

The universe is very complicated
Science cannot explain every detail
Therefore God exists.

This thinking is so lazy as to be pathetic. Abstracting a cause outside the realm of reality is not an explanation. It's burying your head in the sand.
You caught me! Credible source right here!
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:18 PM
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You caught me! Credible source right here!
I'll take your vapid response as confirmation that you have no stronger argument to make.
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:21 PM
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