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12-16-2009, 10:02 PM
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Thats why the GMs have acted so fast to take care of it..OMG! Wait a min..maybe the GMs have acted and have recognized that it was not an exploit! /GASP! | |||
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12-16-2009, 10:04 PM
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It sounds like we can make an agreement. We'll agree that neither Reiker nor Tibador can just make the past go away. No matter how many "attaboys" they perform. The only problem I see left is that one of those people is in a position of authority on the server... | |||
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12-16-2009, 10:11 PM
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12-16-2009, 10:21 PM
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It is not Zexa's problem, it is all of ours. If this is the precedent that is being accepted, there is no reason anyone should not exploit any and all content on this server. If they are going to let people who have been shown without any trace of doubt (video proof, admissions, what more do you want?) to be exploiting get away with it, we should all start exploiting everything right now. If "nothing" is what they do to tibador and allizia, then EXPLOITING IS OK BY THE DE FACTO RULES OF THE SERVER. Again, this is everyone's problem. This server will be ruined by people exploiting mobs at every turn.. duos or even solos on raid bosses? sure! Why not if you can exploit the geometry or some bug? Sound good? Yeah, doesn't sound good to me either. | |||
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12-16-2009, 11:09 PM
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It is his perception that it is an exploit because no GM has stated anything to reinforce the accusation! Someone using MQ to warp/target/whatever and a player dealing with buggy pathing on a raid mob is much different. They still had to fight the boss they still had to do the work. This is not High Keep bards we are dealing with where there was no risk. It was bugged pathing and it was reported many times on these forums by a representative of Transcendence. You guys are really grasping at straws here. You are using "phinny pulled through a wall" as a effigy for your frustrations that you will have to actually accept a compromise. It is not working out for you guys. Stop trying to over think the issue and shift the discussion to something that matters. Like a solution for how to handle raid mobs. | |||
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12-16-2009, 11:24 PM
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Supreme. You seem to be misinformed on this situation. There has been a warning given to Trans already about how the encounter is supposed to work. Aeolwind replied to a post about it not being legit.
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12-16-2009, 11:30 PM
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Phinny is a pushover. He is the easiest "boss" in classic. The four seahorses guarding phinny are *MUCH* harder to break and kill than phinegal. We are *not* disputing trans's ability to kill phinegal, should they meet him in a proper encounter. What we *are* disputing is the method they used to pull phinegal past the seahorses without killing them. The bypassed the encounter as it was intended and on top of that they were warned about this specific behavior prior to doing it. When trans killed "vox," she had no ae. Instead of stopping the encounter, repopping vox properly (which is well within tibador's powers and scope), and then continuing on a non-bugged vox, they killed her and looted her and waited until later to petition it. trans and divinity attempted mayong, but he had no ae. secrets stopped the encounter and repopped mayong (again buggy, without the script as set by aeolwind after our last encounter with him). When trans killed "mayong," he had no ae (sound familiar?). Instead of stopping the encounter, repopping mayong properly (which is well within tibador's powers and scope), and then continuing on a non-bugged mayong, they killed him and looted him (sound familiar?). The fact that secrets set the precedent for stopping the enounter should have sent a signal to trans that mayong was buggy and was supposed to have an ae. At this point apparently secrets logged. Tibador still had the opportunity to do the right thing, but chose to let his exploitative raidforce finish the encounter and obtain loot. | |||
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12-16-2009, 11:54 PM
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I'm not trying to cause a issue, but some people bringing up the Phinny encounter with Tibador+Allizia and others bringing up the whole Reiker deal seems like *somewhat* close to the same deal.
Both sides are being extremely hypocritical IMHO, regardless of which side I belong to. We all sound like high school girls rather than grown human beings. fuckin a haha [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] PS: I'm not an authority on either situation as I barely know Tiki/Reiker and have yet to be at a Phinny encounter here due to school and other RL things, so don't condemn me on either part, just trying to point out something [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] | ||
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12-17-2009, 01:35 AM
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For the records, it would have been highly unlikely for them to be able to do phinny legitly that night with their nine poeple present, only 2 pet classes and no tank.
even if they did split the 4 pull, killing 4 CH'ing mob with just 1 basher and so little dps under 22 minute is very very very unlikely. IB did it with 8 poeple once, we had a cleric, 4 mages, 1 necro, 1 wizard and a druid. Respawn was very tight and we barely pulled it off. | ||
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