not a single player has told me to plan on raiding

[maverixdamighty]

skope you've made it abundantly clear you will only be happy when this server caters to casual guilds. this is a non-classic mentality so give it up.

i'm all for sharing mobs, doing things in coordination with other guilds etc, but if you expect rewards without any effort i don't know what to tell you other than i hope you don't live your life that way as well.

edit: also the top guilds at the time when kunark came out probably didn't think kunark would be the only content available for the next several years...eq allowed other guilds to get targets as the top guilds moved on to new/better content. this isn't happening here since there is no new content.

[xarzzardorn]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That only holds water if it was me who said it, but it wasn't. It's a case of P99 Deja Vu. When threads like this popped up pre-kunark, the two guilds at the top were the first to claim it'd get better with the release of Kunark in rebuttle to the same arguments popping up here now.

so it didn't really get better unless you're killing PD a couple times a month?

[Crazyeye]

Would like to see a headcount of how many level 60's there are between now - two and a half years ago when the next expansion was due. Compare that to how many raid targets vs how many people want to see new content, thats why theres zerg guilds.

[Famous]

This thread is funny. I've never raided here so I don't know what it's like, but the representatives of the major raid guilds that have posted here so far are painting a clear picture of the kind of person that you need to be to partake. I think I'll be OK just leveling a char up to 60 and quitting, or maybe using them to farm for alts =)

[Skope]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

skope you've made it abundantly clear you will only be happy when this server caters to casual guilds. this is a non-classic mentality so give it up.

i'm all for sharing mobs, doing things in coordination with other guilds etc, but if you expect rewards without any effort i don't know what to tell you other than i hope you don't live your life that way as well.

edit: also the top guilds at the time when kunark came out probably didn't think kunark would be the only content available for the next several years...eq allowed other guilds to get targets as the top guilds moved on to new/better content. this isn't happening here since there is no new content.

Read nilbog's posts then read Rogean's patch notes.

I don't know who the hell you're arguing with here, but you seem to be under the assumption that I even expect any semblance of change when I quite clearly don't. If what's been going on as of late is any indication, you needn't worry about any change in the rules nor any "favors" for "casual" guilds. They've both made it quite clear that, even though they dislike it, they don't care enough to change it and would rather maintain the status quo. They're adding more variance and changing the way NPCs behave just to cater to you guys. I'm sure you'll be fine. You may want to start recruiting more, though.

I'm out ferrealz ferrealz.

Originally Posted by Famous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think I'll be OK just leveling a char up to 60 and quitting, or maybe using them to farm for alts =)

You and the vast majority of people that have ever stepped foot into this place. Enjoy it while you can and don't ever take it seriously. Consequently, don't ever give anyone respect just because they feel they're entitled to it, whether players or staff. If you find yourself dropping RL stuff to EQ then you're in dire need of a break.

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zerg guilds, on both servers, I wish you would drop some numbers or create rules or rotations with other guilds. It's ridiculous that it reaches the point that management is blamed for what happens in game.

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[quido]

The window extensions should have been patched alongside a change that improved the chances of an early spawn for better balance against the overall decrease in the number of mobs.

While unfair to some, I think the window extension has helped discourage a lot of end-of-window poopsocking that would have happened otherwise.

[quido]

Let's try it out for a couple months and see how it goes. What do we have to lose? It's an easy change.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's try it out for a couple months and see how it goes. What do we have to lose? It's an easy change.

You forget that they promised we'd see the exact opposite, Jeremy. You're also implying that they would even bother changing anything in the first place, and that's quite the assumption.

[kotton05]

I want a pre variance