This would help guilds to raid

[Strifer]

How to get raid loots:

1. Join TMO
2. ????
3. PROFIT!

When applying call Zeelot "sugarbutt", he likes that.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quality is not the same as quantity. If you actually did something about the violations instead of limp wristed slaps, the players would actually respect the rules and you wouldn't need to police shit so much.

I don't agree with authoritarianism in a governing body of the real world, but in a voluntary shared space, we all agree to follow your rules, and authoritarianism can be expected and even lauded.

The laissez faire way you guys have thus far gone about enforcing the rules, from official postings all the way to decisions in the heat of battle have been so disjointed and inconsistent that even those who WANT to respect you guys and your rules (myself included) don't give a shit because you don't even respect them.

I'd like to point out a few instances here --

Raren. Oh boy, what is a person to say here? The guy duped manastones and other junk for months and then was caught one night when I lent money to a friend to buy a stone from him, but Rogean showed up, gave me my money back and deleted the manastone. So what happened? It took two weeks for Raren to get banned and then he returned a couple of months later. Apparently, duping manastones isn't a bannable offense here. Dupe away.

With respect to trains while raiding and guild-wide suspensions, they're about as consistent as a coin flip. Sometimes a guild is given a timeout, but it seems that more often than not a single player is given the timeout while the guild goes on as if nothing happened.

I recall DA being given a two week timeout for a player caught MQ/SEQing (in lguk...) while Perun admitted to using SEQ when pulling Talendor and TR wasn't given a guild-wide raid suspension.

There's the above Bumamgar incident where Rogean decided that Bumamgar's argument -- he claimed that he didn't have to abide by the rules the players' had agreed upon (and Rogean said in vent he'd agree to enforce them) because he wasn't here when they were made -- was a reasonable one. Using the same logic, I'd like to invite every new person to the server to train,KS, and ninjaloot all of the raid mobs because they weren't here when the rules were made.

This is just off the top of my head where I recall thinking, "Did they really just do that?"

I get it. It's your server and you can do as you please, but don't expect to follow blindly and respect some truly idiotic decisions.

[RoKnRuiN1]

I find It absolutely astonishing, after all that has been established in the community about the raid scene, that the community is essentially just flat out ignored. What kind of shit brained operation are you dev's trying to run? Did you just decide that people are going to play your emulator regardless of them being happy or not? If that's the case then all I have to say to you low-life pieces of shit for developers is this.

Fuck you

[RoKnRuiN1]

Originally Posted by 46shadesofgway [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whatever they decide to give you.

Don't you understand?

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3278

Wow, what a fucking joke. The GM's on this server are a bunch of sand filled cunts.

[Hasbinbad]

dr. obvious posts again

[Skope]

Originally Posted by 46shadesofgway [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So what am I saying? I guess I'm just saying, know your options. Given their own attitudes and rules developers/serverstaff CANNOT be held accountable by players. When you played EverQuest you paid them for a service. If you had issues, there were people that could be held accountable and expected to answer to YOU, no matter how big or small the issue.

A little communication and honesty goes a long way. Many of us who have been around for years still want to see the project go on and in a healthy manner, but we're also allergic to bullshit. Aeolwind's claim is complete and utter bullshit given the last two patches and changes to the raid scene, where both have placated and pandered to the same players he wants to stop policing. Were the changes classic? Is it what we agreed upon? Is it even remotely close to what we as players were promised? And that's just the last two patches. Obviously it's what the GMs wanted, but then don't turn around and claim that you're willing to listen to the players' when you quite obviously don't give a fuck.

[Hasbinbad]

my argument summed up:

1.) If you're going to spend any time policing p99, you can do this effectively or ineffectively.
2.) Effective policing will lead to a lesser need for policing.
3.) Ineffective policing will lead to a greater need for policing.
4.) Staff have a built in method (2) for reducing the need to police the server based on the effectiveness of their policing.
5.) Certain staff have complained about time spent policing the server.
6.) Therefore, one should conclude that certain staff are unaware that they have a built in method to reduce the need to police the server.

[Hasbinbad]

i.e. dum as fuq

[Skope]

Originally Posted by 46shadesofgway [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why you telling me? =p

I'm not, I'm just expanding :P

I know it's disheartening and even condescending, but it's criticism and feedback that's been built up over years and it's not new. It gets brought up every now and then but never addressed other than the obligatory "We do as we see fit."

We're not bitching and whining because we hate you, we're bitching and whining because there are obvious problems that you're ignoring and only exacerbating. Instead of having us bitch and whine every few months, perhaps you guys can listen...

[Clark]

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