Zero Reasons not to Wipe

[GrobbGangsta]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It amazes me how well people get along with each other.

On live, there were many more guilds. Was it because of more players?.. That was my original thought but now I'm not really sure. I think people have fallen into sheep roles where as long as someone is willing to lead, they will march 10x10 as long as they get loot.

I would have thought there would be a point where people would be like.. FUUUUUCK YOU, I'm out. That doesn't seem to happen. Are the leaders really that good, or are the followers sheeped out?

This 'problem' could be resolved by players leaving their current guilds and making more.. guilds. This power does reside with the people. I'm sure I'll get responses like, wipe the server, or that I don't know what I'm talking about.. but.. this is something I've seen on both pve and pvp now, and it's different than live.. emu phenomenon?

Regardless of this phenomenon, and what causes it, there are a few realities:

1. Nobody is leaving Nihilum, and it isn't breaking up
2. The server pop on red is returning to dark ages
3. Yellow text ain't bringing us back to 200 at peak times

So, would you rather stick to your guns, and stand by the no wipe policy as the server dwindles to nothing to appease those who currently have a stranglehold, or would you rather start the cycle again, and hundreds of people swarm back in playing classic PVP?

As to Raze's concern, once again dude, I am not suggesting this happen every six months, but only now because it seems absolutely necessary. It has been two years.

[reddi lol]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It amazes me how well people get along with each other.

On live, there were many more guilds. Was it because of more players?.. That was my original thought but now I'm not really sure. I think people have fallen into sheep roles where as long as someone is willing to lead, they will march 10x10 as long as they get loot.

I would have thought there would be a point where people would be like.. FUUUUUCK YOU, I'm out. That doesn't seem to happen. Are the leaders really that good, or are the followers sheeped out?

This 'problem' could be resolved by players leaving their current guilds and making more.. guilds. This power does reside with the people. I'm sure I'll get responses like, wipe the server, or that I don't know what I'm talking about.. but.. this is something I've seen on both pve and pvp now, and it's different than live.. emu phenomenon?

Ready to have a bunch of 10-15 man guilds that do seb and pvp but web Nihilum has a 100 man rosterx3 vP geared alts plugged into zones for lemmings style PvP it's not a viable option.

Forced to counterzerg under shit guild with shit leader spending 3 hours buffing and lfg while being told to follow a bard that doesn't selo your group and has your 30 members stream across 3 zones and get 1 shotted.

Classic. Vlassic.

[Malevz]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think people have fallen into sheep roles where as long as someone is willing to lead, they will march 10x10 as long as they get loot.

You should consider the fact that some of us genuinely like our guildies. I started out disliking Nihilum, killing them in Uprising, then in my own guild. Eventually Supreme told me it was a good group of people and I decided to join.

Now there is a ton of people I like. I troll Tune constantly, and he trolls me back and I laugh my ass off. He acts mock offended because it makes it funnier sometimes. Nizzar yelling OMG you guys are retarded makes me laugh. Ordaga calling out during raid ... um who keeps trying to chain snare me is great fun. Hassling Nothxu because he attacked a Nihilum alt in KC, Cyborella making jokes in teamspeak, and all the danish people we have making swede jokes... Old man Arzak... Dekadenz asking about how to play magic the gathering... Checkraise saying mkaymkay and listening to 5 people trying to imitate him. Seeing new people in the guild and helping gear them up and get their epics...

EQ is the game it is because of the community. You spend hours a day leveling, questing, raiding, and helping the same people, you get used to them. I like the pvp, and the pve, but the reason I keep logging in is because in <Defiant> on live and <Nihilum> here, it's a great group of people.

Sometimes I miss being in a four person guild, but I'd get bored running around and pvping eventually. It's the people that need a tank or a healer, or just want to bullshit in teamspeak, that's what keeps you coming back.

[reddi lol]

Homo

[GrobbGangsta]

Originally Posted by Malevz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You should consider the fact that some of us genuinely like our guildies. I started out disliking Nihilum, killing them in Uprising, then in my own guild. Eventually Supreme told me it was a good group of people and I decided to join.

Now there is a ton of people I like. I troll Tune constantly, and he trolls me back and I laugh my ass off. He acts mock offended because it makes it funnier sometimes. Nizzar yelling OMG you guys are retarded makes me laugh. Ordaga calling out during raid ... um who keeps trying to chain snare me is great fun. Hassling Nothxu because he attacked a Nihilum alt in KC, Cyborella making jokes in teamspeak, and all the danish people we have making swede jokes... Old man Arzak... Dekadenz asking about how to play magic the gathering... Checkraise saying mkaymkay and listening to 5 people trying to imitate him. Seeing new people in the guild and helping gear them up and get their epics...

EQ is the game it is because of the community. You spend hours a day leveling, questing, raiding, and helping the same people, you get used to them. I like the pvp, and the pve, but the reason I keep logging in is because in <Defiant> on live and <Nihilum> here, it's a great group of people.

Sometimes I miss being in a four person guild, but I'd get bored running around and pvping eventually. It's the people that need a tank or a healer, or just want to bullshit in teamspeak, that's what keeps you coming back.

Not gonna lie I got full on second-hand embarrassment reading this virgin-infused nostalgic rambling

In other news, it completely fails to address the issue

[heartbrand]

Lol retti summed it up. The opposition is led by an idiot. I'm not happy with the amount of people in nihilum currently and I'm open about that. I do happen to genuinely like the majority of people in my guild though such as nizzar, dekadenz, hectorchrist, tune, holo crew, mendan, action, others etc. I can speak only for me personally I'm not about to leave a bunch of people I genuinely like to go join Lite and company made up of selfish brain dead players who are more concerned about farming fungi tunic #100 then helping fight the good fight. I put up with the crew that is the opposition for almost a year, no thanks amigos. What is needed is fresh blood, preferably a guild from blue, to all come over to red. Right now unfortunately there's just no attractive alternative for people apart from nihilum. Almost every app we get says the same thing "I wanted to play for the under dog but they are retarded."

[reddi lol]

"I like the sounds of this guys voice and that guys voice" "these are all the little gay quirky things we do" u fucking disgust me. When's te next time you the quit because people tell you to stop talking about doing coke and making gay ass jokes.

[heartbrand]

And how can we get new blood without just wiping and everything and killing server pop in the long run? By enabling one time blue to red transfer.

[heartbrand]

Every time I even begin to think about shaking thinks up I just remind myself of how it used to take three hours for people to form up in south ro and buff for the most trivial of encounters.

[Malevz]

Originally Posted by GrobbGangsta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not gonna lie I got full on second-hand embarrassment reading this virgin-infused nostalgic rambling

In other news, it completely fails to address the issue

Enjoying the game and liking your guildmates seems to work.

How goes raging, greed, dissent and people stealing off each other work? Oh right you're crying for a pwipe. Working well I assume.