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Old 05-06-2013, 05:58 PM
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Bob i thought we told you no logic here!
You sound like my wife! =D

Like some people and myself have stated in this thread, prices are actually down from a year ago, quite a bit down on most high end items. The only item I have seen increase in price is manastones.

And not to sound elitist...but the people complaining about prices are new players who see this huge price for a fungi tunic,(half what it was a year ago but again...who needs logic and facts). What they dont seem to get is if they progress and lvl as intended they too can go farm a fungi or any number of items that sell for a lot and all of a sudden...they have money to get what they want.

If they think they should be able to afford a fungi on their first character at lvl 20 they are deluded.
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:01 PM
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If they think they should be able to afford a fungi on their first character at lvl 20 they are deluded.
but all the other lvl 20's have funig's It's Not FAIR!
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:02 PM
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but all the other lvl 20's have funig's It's Not FAIR!
I just got my first fungi and I've been playing since 2010. Granted, it is on my level 21 shaman.
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:06 PM
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but all the other lvl 20's have funig's It's Not FAIR!
Yep, people look at their McDonalds cheeseburger and consider it unfair that there's a guy in a restaurant over the road cutting into a juicy steak...

Anyone can start today, and once they have a character in the 40s they can begin camping a lot of stuff and start earning their fortunes from there. There's other ways with the sister camp in LFay etc but overall if you want to be "above par" in line with the average amount of plat in the bank you're going to have to work at it.

Starting a new server only leads to the same gripes a year from launch, people just have a strange inability to process that they can be as rich on an old server as they can on a new server...both take some work.
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:19 PM
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Very harsh, but its the only solution suggested so far that i could stand behind.

Time to make 100 characters to hold 1k each
We never knew it was coming until the server went down for the patch.

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Old 05-06-2013, 06:21 PM
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We never knew it was coming until the server went down for the patch.

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I feel for all the farmers.

and I was just kiddin about it not bein fair guys )
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:22 PM
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I have been playing off and on on the Sleeper Server and it is pretty scary how much good gear some of the level mid 30's people have been farming. Not sure who is highest. I have seen a 42 Monk. But just saying if you know what you are doing and where to go there is some damn nice loot to be had even at lower levels.
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Old 05-07-2013, 05:50 AM
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You sound like my wife! =D

Like some people and myself have stated in this thread, prices are actually down from a year ago, quite a bit down on most high end items. The only item I have seen increase in price is manastones.

And not to sound elitist...but the people complaining about prices are new players who see this huge price for a fungi tunic,(half what it was a year ago but again...who needs logic and facts). What they dont seem to get is if they progress and lvl as intended they too can go farm a fungi or any number of items that sell for a lot and all of a sudden...they have money to get what they want.

If they think they should be able to afford a fungi on their first character at lvl 20 they are deluded.
I'm actually comparing to the prices I remember from live. For instance I was quoted 1600pp for a shield that I sold several of for less than 200 back in the day. So no, it's not just the very high level gear that has crazy prices. Every item seems crazy inflated because there is so much extra plat. I can't even afford level appropriate newbie gear on my character because I'm new to 99.

I was even told by 3 different jewelcrafters in EC that they wouldn't bother making gold or electrum jewelry. The one who finally did it for me charged me 3X the combine cost when jewelers used to gladly do it for cost just to get the skill increase for making it.

Right now I'd like to just find a simple magic weapon to kill wisps with. If they are out there none seem to be selling them. If it doesn't sell for 1000pp then no one even bothers with auctioning it. It's just not worth their time and effort.

Its not the end of the world. Anyone who has played on a day 1 server has used mundane gear for many, many levels.
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:00 AM
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careful, you almost backed up into a black hole of logical absurdity.
"or even classic"

Yeah, almost.
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Old 05-07-2013, 10:19 AM
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the person that solves the economy problem in MMOS will be very rich.
I'm working on my PhD in Economics.

There are several issues:

1) Currency is not controlled.
2) There's no interest rate to offset inflation.
3) There's no borrowing/lending, due to no collateral.
4) Merchants buy the same item even if they have a billion of it, whereas you'd think their marginal utility would be close to zero or even negative for that last item. People should have to find a merchant who doesn't have very many of that item you're trying to sell.
5) Mobs DROP currency, it should only be attainable through banks, or merchants.
6) Mobs DROP gear, although this isn't such a huge problem, because it takes work to farm gear, just like it takes work to make gear IRL.
7) Tradeskills generally produce inferior gear to camping.
8) Certain items are simply unfarmable now, this doesn't usually happen in real life. Their prices skyrocket.
9) Last but not least, patches are being anticipated, people know what will happen and how items are going to change.
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