Nocturne

[orsk]

I cant wait till the machines take over.

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Originally Posted by orsk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I cant wait till the machines take over.

they already have

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[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Black Jesus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The main conversation is about macroevolution, which is where science turns into gobbledy **** unproven conjecture becuase of an incomplete fossil record. It's no different than mating two gingers and knowing it's gonna come out ginger. Macroevolution says you mate gingers enough times you get a t-rex

and newtonian physics breaks down at the quantum level, right? mendelian genetics man, that ginger couple's baby also has a chance to have whatever color hair, and a possible soul, that its grandparents have/had

[zanderklocke]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can be a Christian and still believe in evolution. It just means you're a very dumb Christian is all. It also basically means you think God is a liar since God makes it pretty clear that he created all life and that it didn't just randomly form one day and mutate into various species as evolutionists would have you believe. Evolution does exist in some degree but no where near what is purported by science. All evolution accounts for is very minor adaptations within a species. It would NEVER in a billion years allow for something like a human to grow gils or fins, just because they swim in the water all the time. That is not how evolution works.

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[Black Jesus]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and newtonian physics breaks down at the quantum level, right? mendelian genetics man, that ginger couple's baby also has a chance to have whatever color hair, and a possible soul, that its grandparents have/had

Yea I still don't get why E=1/2m*v^2 until v = c then you lose the 1/2 part

[Black Jesus]

also gingerdom might not even be mendelian. didnt he only talk about dominant and recessive genes? red hair is an incomplete trait

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry I'm not sitting at my computer eagerly awaiting to appease the requests of my presence. I know a great deal about evolution, how else do you think I know that its bullshit? Sorry but unlike you I actually do this thing called research before I take a side. Evolution is not science, period. It is the biggest fraud ever introduced into the scientific community. There isn't a plethora of transitional species like their should be.

You don't understand what a "science" is then.
Do you even know what a "transitional species" is? You want to talk about frauds introduced into the scientific community?
Every time a new species is discovered it's a new species in it's own right, it's not a "transitional species". Species J succeeded species A and preceded species Z that is all. Of course that's not enough because for you because any unexplained factor no matter how small makes you believe that what you are being presented with is wrong.
Species J is discovered, while science is happy to have discovered a new species, you shout "WHAT ABOUT SPECIES D AND R? WHERE ARE THEY?", the thing is, they've found them, they've found not only species A-Z they've found A.5 and B.5 and C.5 and so on, but it's still not enough, not for you. It will never be enough for you, and it has nothing to do with science. It has everything to do with the fact that it's a test of your faith, a faith you're afraid to let go of regardless to the amount of evidence that points towards logical answers.

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that even a tiger and a lion can't produce fertile offspring should be all of the evidence you need to realize that evolution is bullshit but there is oh so much more. These two animals are extremely similar and according to how evolution is supposed to work, there isn't a single logical reason as to why this and so many other exceptions exist.

You can apply the same argument to ask yourself why they can have offspring in the first place, fertile or not, they are different species and they are reproducing. Doesn't mean God did it.
Just because there's a mechanical problem on a plane and I can't figure out what caused it doesn't mean gremlins did it.

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then there's the problem of abiogenesis which in order for evolution to be possible, must be proven to be even remotely possible. To date there isn't a single shred of evidence for the possibility of abiogenesis(mostly due to being impossible). Evolution stands in direct defiance with the law of biogenesis which states that in fact no living thing can produce anything other than what it already is. It amazes me how many of you consider yourself scientists and can't even grasp the simple rudimentary concepts of science itself.

Don't bring up abiogenesis in a discussion about evolution. Abiogenesis discusses the origin of life. Evolution discusses what life does after it's already there.
Would you go to a discussion about Nuclear Physics and start arguing about Geology? I mean the Plutonium is found in the ground after all!
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Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why don't we see a single thing alive on this planet today that appears to be in transitional form when there should be an uncountable number of such things. Why is every animal in existence, virtually exactly how it was since recorded history itself began.

You fell into the same logical fallacy yet again, now you're going in circles.
Also define "recorded history", because it's a lot longer than you would think, the only problem is that the further you go back the more fragmented (unreliable) it becomes.

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can be a Christian and still believe in evolution. It just means you're a very dumb Christian is all. It also basically means you think God is a liar since God makes it pretty clear that he created all life and that it didn't just randomly form one day and mutate into various species as evolutionists would have you believe. Evolution does exist in some degree but no where near what is purported by science. All evolution accounts for is very minor adaptations within a species. It would NEVER in a billion years allow for something like a human to grow gils or fins, just because they swim in the water all the time. That is not how evolution works.

Again you are arguing "pretty clear" like you did with "obvious" before. If it's so obvious why don't you cite some examples please? Before you start I don't want to hear how a banana fits perfectly in your hand ergo God did it...

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And yet you just did. Kind of a metaphor for what a walking talking contradiction you are. If you truly believe in evolution there is something wrong with your ability to reason and grasp common sense. The Bible makes it clear as possible that we were given dominion over nature.

How does it do this? Also how do you know that the bible is 'accurate'? Please explain this to me without faith or the Bible (Bible proves Bible is the biggest logical fallacy of them all, don't fall into it please). I don't give a shit why you believe it, I want to know why others should believe it if it's so "clear".

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you're telling this me this is just "metaphorical"? Sorry but you don't know what the word even means. It's pretty blatantly clear and not metaphorical in the slightest. The Bible is extremely obvious about when things are and aren't metaphors. It says we rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, not that we evolved from them. We were created separately from them and are different then they are.

Again you use the term "clear", the problem is that you were already convinced that the book was the rule of law before the discussion already began. You aren't performing science when you are researching to an end, you are making biased observations, nothing more and nothing less.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that even a tiger and a lion can't produce fertile offspring should be all of the evidence you need to realize that evolution is bullshit but there is oh so much more. These two animals are extremely similar and according to how evolution is supposed to work, there isn't a single logical reason as to why this and so many other exceptions exist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HgW86TwF_o

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Black Jesus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

moon landing was faked the flag is fucking flapping in the wind on a body with no atmosphere

Motherfucker you can see it with a telescope.

[Hitchens]

Thread needs more Naez.