Addressing the Economy (mudflation)

[Clark]

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[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by ArumTP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

100k guise would be better. More people ~could~ buy it removing platinum faster. Maybe what 100 people could get a 500k guise? Odds got it, the people that got that 500k cash have been on the server when it was dropping and got one already. The "poors" that have like 100k came later on the server, and there is a lot more of them, and likely don't have one already.

I mean if you want to see an entire server of dark elves [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Now if you want to see some sort of casino thus giving the 'poors' a chance I'm totally down, but I don't think they should take a few of the best items in the game and trivialize them.

Anyway, don't worry because there is no way Nilbog is departing this far from his vision of classic.

[Nune]

You know white people - get pp, dont spend it

Kanye Quest

[Gaffin Deeppockets]

Originally Posted by Tippett [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah gaffins dum as my point addressed

I got your logic. I'm not retarded. Thanks though. I was just stating my opinion. Good luck on a merchant for guises being implemented. Wont happen.

[orsk]

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Toss up no drop guises at 500k- 1mill pp a pop...i promise you they would sell like crazy. However, this would royally piss off the very few people left on the server with a legit guise from launch.

Sacrafice the few for the many?


Really any money sink that was for fluff items (or even make the items no drop, that would solve the issues as well. Buy a no drop manastone for 100k) would not be detrimental, other than the age old argument (it's not classic). But as you have stated...we are 1.5 years past classic at this point.

Bob i thought we told you no logic here!

[Vondra]

I think people are blowing inflation way out of proportion.

I left for over a year and just came back a few days ago. Prices on the stuff I recognize has actually gone down. hiero cloaks were like 75k. Now more like 60. FBSS's are 10k rather than 15k. necklace of superiority same as hiero cloak. Fungis were like 150k I think, under 100k now. All sorts of high end but "entry level high end", stuff like rapier of oriin, lamentation etc...down in price.

Hell you can buy the rogue epic right now for what, like 75k? Not exactly expensive considering.

Low end stuff is selling for the same couple hundred gold it was back then.

The stuff that was selling for a few hundred k, the high end tradeable raid drops...still seem to sell for a few hundred k.

I saw someone for a couple days in EC trying to get rid of a runed bolster belt for 90k and apparently having no luck. That was over 200k before.

There might be a few super luxury items that cost more now, due to a small group of long term players with money to afford them, but that's not really inflation.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Vondra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think people are blowing inflation way out of proportion.

I left for over a year and just came back a few days ago. Prices on the stuff I recognize has actually gone down. hiero cloaks were like 75k. Now more like 60. FBSS's are 10k rather than 15k. necklace of superiority same as hiero cloak. Fungis were like 150k I think, under 100k now. All sorts of high end but "entry level high end", stuff like rapier of oriin, lamentation etc...down in price.

Hell you can buy the rogue epic right now for what, like 75k? Not exactly expensive considering.

Low end stuff is selling for the same couple hundred gold it was back then.

The stuff that was selling for a few hundred k, the high end tradeable raid drops...still seem to sell for a few hundred k.

I saw someone for a couple days in EC trying to get rid of a runed bolster belt for 90k and apparently having no luck. That was over 200k before.

There might be a few super luxury items that cost more now, due to a small group of long term players with money to afford them, but that's not really inflation.

Between early last year and now, prices are still down overall, but from like 6-8 months ago prices have doubled. Fungis were lowest at ~45k, Rogue MQs 40k, Hieros 30k, NoS 30k, FBSS 5-6k.

People are remember what is freshest in their minds when complaining about this stuff.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Nune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know white people - get pp, dont spend it

Kanye Quest

I thought that was Jews?

[Ezrick]

It was called "The Great Turkey Day Massacre".

There were several games before EQ of course, not even including MUDS. One was called "The Realm". It still exists today.


It was actually the only online game released by Sierra Online. It was quite successful and while the graphics were a bit hokey, and PvP rife with cheating (cheaters would intercept packets giving away the opponents next move in the turned-based combat) it did entertain us quite admirably for several year before EQ sucked us all in.

What happened was that a new version was planned, everyone was promised that all items and gold would carry over into the new game. They promised the players this six months in advance and EVERYONE hoarded gold waiting on release of The Realm 2.0.

The economy, on release, was a disaster. Combat item decay was part of the money sink, but it was stupidly easy with the 50k gold you had sitting in you chest at the house. EVERYTHING about the economy sucked. The smallest magic items sold for incredible amounts (sound familiar?).

So on Thanksgiving in 1997 they simply took it. ALL of it. Any items that were overpowered in the new version, gone, every character no matter their level was given 10gp. That was IT.

Of course there was great gnashing teeth. Many of us, for weeks, ran around in armor that was literally falling off, because we couldn't afford to fix it. People WAILED.

But in the end, it worked. It was a much healthier game in the end.

Ezzy


WTS a 4 CHANT WRATH! (because real men use adamantium mauls)

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

cuz let me see if I am clear on my take: people can farm all they like, that is as old eq as anything. And, some people *love* that angle of the game, as well as the commonlands Trading Pit (lol)

But the problem is the sheer tonnage of plat, not those thing. *That* would be my target on the distorting factor. It inflates prices, it has turned some accounts not only rich in items but astronomically plat rich, but probably because of ... that plat tonnage on the server!

But it is the plat, isn't it?

Item farming and subsequent pricing will follow the plat market, so to speak. There will be no such thing as 1 million plat items if we simply set all accounts of over 1k plat to 1k. Everyone keeps their items. But now, we all got 1k plat. And that would be the Great Plat reset (and yes, 1k)

PS DO IT NOW BEFORE THEY CONVERT TO ASSETS

[Rhambuk]

Very harsh, but its the only solution suggested so far that i could stand behind.

Time to make 100 characters to hold 1k each