When will something be done about intentional trains?

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/report takes the last 20 lines on your window and sends it to the server.

If you run a third party program to force your window to display new lines of text that wouldn't otherwise be there, they get sent to the server too.

On live these reports are then saved and the GM's trust them unquestionably. I've seen people suspended/banned for something that was reported they never said.

Oh, well thats pretty lame. Hate 3rd party programs!

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And that's where the vast majority of you are wrong and when you scream fix it for something you are so ignorant about and then get angry at us for something you don't understand.

First, people do change IP Addresses to train. Other than that, there is no way to link someone to their main account.

Now lets say someone did train someone else with the same IP Address. How do we actually prove it was them and not someone else living in the same house/apartment/campus? Would you like to be banned for something a roommate did?

The biggest disadvantage to this server being free is that we have no control over people simply making new accounts to grief with.

Then theres also proving that the train occured. You guys think this server is any worse than live? I still play live, and I can tell you, people get trained ALL the time. There is absolutely NO WAY for eqlive gm's to prove it other than catching someone in the act, or getting a /report of said person admitting to it, which we can't accept even on this server because /report's can be fabricated (Both on here AND on live.. why EQLive trusts them blindly is nothing short of stupidity on their part. I can incriminate someone on live just by faking a /report for something they never said.)

So in other words contrary to what you have said in the past you can and will do absolutly nothing about the douchebags that intentonaly train. Good to know

[Zordana]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even if there were, whats to prevent someone from continueing to create level 1 characters and training people?

I'm open to suggestions.

30 day ban from all accounts that connected from the same IP within a certain timespan - if people would lose their mainchars for a month (or probably after warnings forever) they most likely wont train and that would decimate the amount of trainers alot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tho just an idea - since like EVERYTHING is exploitable or fakeable or whatever... there might be lots of ways to get them, but none are bulletproof....

[deificus]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which also brings up something else, oh boy fun! Guilds share account information all over.

That's good to know. I'll be sure to avoid those guilds. I share account info (free or not) with no one.

[oldhead]

Originally Posted by mitic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the moment you share an account u SHOULD be aware that things like this can happen. its on the responsibility of the accounts owner and so he, sadly for him, has to be at least suspended if not permabanned

you dont make exceptions on boxing so why are you doing em on this, for the servers sake, more serious issues?

I agree with this as far as not banning because it could be someone else on the account.

That should not matter. You are not banning the person. You are banning the account. You want to share your account then you better trust who you share it with else dont share it.

Share account information at your own risk not ours.

[azxten]

Use a service like this...

http://www.proveout.com/r/phone-verification.html

Tie account creation with phone verification. This eventually adds a cost to creating an account when you run out of numbers to use. Also a lot of these services allow you to block virtual numbers from service like Google talk, Skype, etc and payphones.

[PhelanKA]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Use a service like this...

http://www.proveout.com/r/phone-verification.html

Tie account creation with phone verification. This eventually adds a cost to creating an account when you run out of numbers to use. Also a lot of these services allow you to block virtual numbers from service like Google talk, Skype, etc and payphones.

That sounds like a really good idea. This would probably keep at least some of the riff raff from ever creating a single account.

I was surprised when I first started on the server that there wasn't at least a hidden passcode for downloading the server specific files to keep some people out. I know a lot of MP FPS servers keep server passwords in their introduction literature on their forums and it works to some extent.

[Uaellaen]

that sounds way too expensive imho ...

[slydexx]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Use a service like this...

http://www.proveout.com/r/phone-verification.html

Tie account creation with phone verification. This eventually adds a cost to creating an account when you run out of numbers to use. Also a lot of these services allow you to block virtual numbers from service like Google talk, Skype, etc and payphones.

I'm all for going way farther..lets do a DNA test and a criminal background and rogean should just go to everyones home to verify the accounts.....right?

[Zordana]

up to 55 cent PER activation? yeah right [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]