Time to End Account Buying/Selling?

[porigromus]

I would like to see account sells/trades to end but how would they police something like that? Most of us have dynamic IPs I am sure and play from portable device such as laptops. I would like to see this end too but how would you do it?

If RMT could be ended as well permanently that would be nice too. Again though, how would they do it? I would love to see Nilbog and Rogean eventually customize this server to attempt to remove legit and illegit exploits. I know perfect will never be possible but I like to think of a possiblity of leveling the playing field as best as you can.

Issues I think could be prevented, but how is the question? Owning a quality server such as this and having the ability to customize it would be fun. Maybe they will just make another server and leave one untouched classic trilogy EQ and another the way they invisioned it.

- Powerleveling

- RMT

- Duping of Plat

- Character Trading/Selling

- Twinking

- Mudflation

- Poopsocking (Raids and Valuable Item Camps)

- Exploitation of game mechanics

[smokemon]

Originally Posted by Anderdale [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah but you bought Hustle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't buy Hustle, hustle is a real life friend of mine who stopped playing to focus on other things, facts before accusations! Hokkkay? Thanks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by xCry0x [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This.

From playing mmo's since I was 12 I have learned 2 general overlying types of players exist.

1) Those who enjoy 'the grind' and take pride in leveling multiple characters.
2) Those who enjoy min/maxing their one character to hell. (This can be getting best in slot, farming a pile of money etc).

The people who fall into #1 hate then the people who fall into #2 trivialize their sense of accomplishment by buying accounts instead of leveling them.

The people who fall into #2 never understand why anyone would want to be in #1.

EQ also has a #3 category which is the EC trader who typically pisses #1 and #2 off buy never leveling past level 20, which upsets #1 and then buying/selling for all the best gear in the game without ever dealing with raids which pisses off #2.

All 3 of those people enjoy the game in their own way and it is not the place of anyone to sit on a high horse and demand the game be changed to benefit one over the other. All 3 play the game and simply invest their time differently.

And the issue with p99 is the ratio of #3's to everyone else. on live it was a lower % of #3 and also had new items(velious and other xpac) flowing into economy where as we don't here.

[Anderdale]

Originally Posted by smokemon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't buy Hustle, hustle is a real life friend of mine who stopped playing to focus on other things, facts before accusations! Hokkkay? Thanks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well your friend bought hustle then. Either way you would have no Hustle had account buying been banned.

[smokemon]

My friend didn't buy hustle, he leveled him from the start. I leveled with hustle and bate on smokemon. Both Hustle and Bate are brothers both my real life friends. You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Anderdale]

Originally Posted by smokemon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My friend didn't buy hustle, he leveled him from the start. I leveled with hustle and bate on smokemon. Both Hustle and Bate are brothers both my real life friends. You have no idea what you're talking about.

no i do know what i am talking about. I bought hustle when he was lvl 16 and sold him around lvl 34

[smokemon]

LOL O RLY? plz elaborate, I might give you credibility if you could tell me the Login name. AND if that turned out to be true, what you're claiming. I had no idea about it and it doesn't negate the fact i'm friends with both IRL and leveled with them till I quit back in june 2011'.

[veejur]

No hijacking here, none.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Banning Account selling is not going to stop RMT. Heck a CoF even a Fungi cost more than a lot of accounts sell for. So you would have to stop buying and selling period. Ain't going to happen. But I can see both sides of this argument.

The only down side to account selling I have seen is grouping with a level 60 that has NO clue how to play the toon in a group. And if it is the puller Oh Boy. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Pretty much tells you it was just bought one way or the other. I am sure once in great awhile it is someones brother playing it though.

...Grouping what at 60? fungus is a 2 man camp, HS south is a 2 man camp, drusella is a 2 man kill, ragefire is a 2 man kill, crypt (JBB / Hiero) can be done by an enterprising shaman or a 2 man camp. You don't group shit at 60 :P Just hope you made one of the right classes for money making, eh?

What's even odder is most of these accounts can be picked up for 300-400k for a 60. Damn low when you realize you can make that in a few days at fungus or a few good rounds in hs south. Hell, ragefire can almost drop that once if you get the mythical double cof.

[Dirtnap]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2boxxing would actually be detrimental to the server.

banning account sales merely removes a minor annoyance that "ruins" some peoples immersion. its not going to stop anything except the people that don't like it wont have to look at it anymore.

I'm just glad I don't plan on leveling up another char, fighting with powerlevelers for mobs was never really fun for me...

The arguments for two-boxing and account sales are exactly the same. Less grouping, more PLing, more soloing, fun for one person but not others.

The only people who want account sales to stay in so badly are the people selling/trading the accounts. Newbies don't have the PP to be buying up accounts and removing account sales only effects the top level players who don't want to level up another character.

This results in less people leveling up which causes less people to group together, which causes more people to roll solo classes, which causes less people to group together, which repeats the cycle until people just quit from frustration.

TL;DR High end players already invested time and are more likely to stick around, newbies will see this fucked up cycle and split earlier than later. The high end players eventually burn out on the lack of more content / competition between guilds and quit.

EDIT: I forgot to add that there are so many high level accounts circulating around on this server, that people aren't leveling and selling as many characters as you think. They just get rotated around the server.