Time to End Account Buying/Selling?

[Uggme]

Originally Posted by xCry0x [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is the difference between buying a level 40 account for 30k or paying someone 30k to pl you to 40?

I think the real problem is that people have had time at this point to obtain tons of level 60 raid geared accounts to park all over the place and there is no real fix to that problem. If you were to ban account selling then the same people would just set up massive pl farms to level accounts to meet the same end result.

If anything, selling accounts helps distribute wealth. Anyone can go level to 50+, get some planar gear and then sell their account for 60k+. To some people that might be a better/more enjoyable way to make money than camping crypt/fungi days on end.

What's the difference? The difference is still time. It takes time to power-level a character to 40. The person on the recieving end must be present and active, and the person providing the service must act as well. Additionally, power-leveledd person at 40 still has the hardest and longest part of the game to level and complete - 40 to 60. This means his or her reputation and things they do from that point forward are still of substancial value. This holds true even if someone is Powerleveled from 1 to 60. It would still take a lot of time to get there - you'd go to dungeons, interact with groups, other people, and camp named mobs for possible loot. Thus, the powerleveled individual is still earning a reputation, either good or bad.

The issue here isn't "distribution of wealth" at all. We already know that anyone with the proper time (interesting how there's a corrolation between time and growth in eq, eh?) and knowledge can make mountains of plat in EC tunnel in a relatively short amount of time, or by camping the proper mob drops for sale, or by getting in good with a guild and selling stuff that gets replaced. To bring in account sales as a means of making the plat available to anyone is a justification only, not a legitimate reason to keep it around.

[Gadwen]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

one less thing for people to spend riches on. people have literally millions of plat and your going to fake out fhe biggest plat sink / redistribution?

fungi for 150k anyone? when people know that others have millions theyll jack prices and theyll sell because what else are they going to spend it on?

If you have millions of plat in the bank you could easily get one of each class and still have 150k left to spend on an overpriced fungi tunic. So why aren't people already charging 150k then?

[Swish]

Depends what you want out of the game anyway, is it unenjoyable without at least 1 fungi/1 manastone in the bank? Got to feel like you're a factor to enjoy the game?

All overblown IMO, if you can twink a character with a decent weapon/robe and some other armor bits...thats enjoyment enough isnt it? My SK alt in DE cultural wíh an atramentous shield and (weapon i forget the name of 16/28 ish), thats plenty.

I dont want a fungi, I dont need a manastone, and a FBSS really isnt necessary either.

[Dirtnap]

I like how all the people for account sales are ultimately saying "It should stay allowed because I enjoy it and it is fun for me!"

If we just follow that logic for everything we should just allow 6 boxing and MQ, and ShowEQ and any other cheating software. Whoever is doing those things enjoy it, so why are you ruining their fun?

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Faerie Blossom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Circulating existing money is not a sink.

its not like high end players just sell back and forth. most account sales are lower level toons. a new player leveling to 40 and selling an account takes money from the rich and gibes it to this new player. only recently have i seen the epic acount sales vp keyed fully decked chars thats one thing.

but lower level/casual players selling stripped toons to these millionaires it hurts their pocket and fills someone that might not already have 2 mil.

haters goin hate

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Dirtnap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like how all the people for account sales are ultimately saying "It should stay allowed because I enjoy it and it is fun for me!"

If we just follow that logic for everything we should just allow 6 boxing and MQ, and ShowEQ and any other cheating software. Whoever is doing those things enjoy it, so why are you ruining their fun?

its the exact same thing on the other side! its ruining my fun stop it!

if it went that way he server would be in a full rotation which im sure most are for but even that would hurt the server. belive it or not.....

[Faerie Blossom]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its not like high end players just sell back and forth. most account sales are lower level toons. a new player leveling to 40 and selling an account takes money from the rich and gibes it to this new player. only recently have i seen the epic acount sales vp keyed fully decked chars thats one thing.

but lower level/casual players selling stripped toons to these millionaires it hurts their pocket and fills someone that might not already have 2 mil.

haters goin hate

Maybe I haven't been watching account sales closely enough, but most of them seem to be 50+, and quite a few are 60 with epic and such. And I've never heard of a player leveling to 40 to sell the character for money to give to a new character. Who would waste their time like that?

[Nitholias01]

Originally Posted by Faerie Blossom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe I haven't been watching account sales closely enough, but most of them seem to be 50+, and quite a few are 60 with epic and such. And I've never heard of a player leveling to 40 to sell the character for money to give to a new character. Who would waste their time like that?

Me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I started this server like 2 years ago, been playing pretty casually and i've managed to sell and trade my way to CoF, Fungi, few other high ends all on a *drumroll* level 8 monk... and the fun part is my first char here was a monk lol

i'm just one of those folks who despises high end raiding but absolutely love leveling characters.

[Uggme]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its not like high end players just sell back and forth. most account sales are lower level toons. a new player leveling to 40 and selling an account takes money from the rich and gibes it to this new player. only recently have i seen the epic acount sales vp keyed fully decked chars thats one thing.

but lower level/casual players selling stripped toons to these millionaires it hurts their pocket and fills someone that might not already have 2 mil.

haters goin hate

Distribution of wealth will still take place even if account sales are stopped. This holds true for new players, including myself. A New player who wants to make more plat only needs to exert a little effort to find out what's valuble within their range of aquiring, get it, then sell it. Profit!

I've already got some ideas on how to get easily camped stuff valuble to raiders, sell it, and hopefully earn over 100k WHILE I gain experience.

Again the issue isn't plat for newbs. It's account sales murking up the sandbox for the majority of players on the server. Put a stop to it, and you'll find a lot more people caring about what they do in game or risk losing it all.

[Faerie Blossom]

Originally Posted by Nitholias01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I started this server like 2 years ago, been playing pretty casually and i've managed to sell and trade my way to CoF, Fungi, few other high ends all on a *drumroll* level 8 monk... and the fun part is my first char here was a monk lol

i'm just one of those folks who despises high end raiding but absolutely love leveling characters.

Interesting!