Senate fails the country again.

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't confuse the issues here the 2nd amendment is not about sport or crime. Its about protecting your god given rights from anyone else enforcing their will on you. This is why our system has checks and balances and even then the founders knew that would only work for so long (they probably understood Plato) so they put in another check that being an armed citizenry. Remove that last check and there is nothing to stop the rulers from doing what they want and backing it up with force, its been proven all throughout history.

I'm surprised a dude who evidently once purchased an Intro to Philosophy textbook at his local community college could be so dumb.

I mean really, just really. Until the second amendment guarantees our right to possess and utilize in our self-defense jets, missiles, helicopters, killer robots and AIDS the government is going to find the citizenry a minor annoyance should they decide they want to "enforce their will upon you". Even armed to the best of your ability, the government is gonna fuck you up, son.

Just admit you're afraid of being raped by a black dude. And by "afraid" I mean "afraid you'll get caught loving it". That's what it usually boils down to within the consumer segment of the gun culture.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm surprised a dude who evidently once purchased an Intro to Philosophy textbook at his local community college could be so dumb.

I mean really, just really. Until the second amendment guarantees our right to possess and utilize in our self-defense jets, missiles, helicopters, killer robots and AIDS the government is going to find the citizenry a minor annoyance should they decide they want to "enforce their will upon you". Even armed to the best of your ability, the government is gonna fuck you up, son.

Just admit you're afraid of being raped by a black dude. And by "afraid" I mean "afraid you'll get caught loving it". That's what it usually boils down to within the consumer segment of the gun culture.

So in other words you have no real rebuttal except for ad hominem attacks among the other employed logical fallacies in your post? The Government cant even handle Afghanistan you think they can handle 100+ million armed citizens? Not just enemies but friends and family. Try not to be so myopic.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Black Jesus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The first amendment does not have a separation of church and state clause

naw...one of the writers just used the term in "expressing an understanding of the intent and function of the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause"...

but hey...he just helped draft it and all

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Government cant even handle Afghanistan you think they can handle 100+ million armed citizens?

90 million of whom will be sucking dicks for french fries after less than a week of cave living...don't knock the Afghanis...

this is actually a good time to bring up the fact that framer's intent probably meant the right to bear arms in order to have a militia so there could be organized resistance to government...but there is no militia and no organization so it's just a bunch of tools. 100 million rednecks spattering their driveways with assault weapons fire while Apache gunships, heavy artillery and drones blow them all to smithereens.

Fuck yeah! Merica!

[Black Jesus]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

naw...one of the writers just used the term in "expressing an understanding of the intent and function of the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause"...

but hey...he just helped draft it and all

the Court has not always interpreted the constitutional principle as absolute, and the proper extent of separation between government and religion in the U.S. remains an ongoing subject of impassioned debate.[3][4][5][6]

GOD BLESS COURTHOUSES WITH THE 10 COMMANDMENTS AND POLICE STATIONS WITH CHRISTMAS TREES

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

90 million of whom will be sucking dicks for french fries after less than a week of cave living...don't knock the Afghanis...

this is actually a good time to bring up the fact that framer's intent probably meant the right to bear arms in order to have a militia so there could be organized resistance to government...but there is no militia and no organization so it's just a bunch of tools. 100 million rednecks spattering their driveways with assault weapons fire while Apache gunships, heavy artillery and drones blow them all to smithereens.

Fuck yeah! Merica!

There are literally thousands of citizen militias. You like to quote Jefferson, maybe understand why he removed commas when ratifying the second amendment to give people the personal right to bear arms, regardless of militia involvement.

[feanan]

I'd assume during any civil war, the military would probably be split. So, hopefully both sides will have tanks and helos.

I doubt a lot of military people would have the stomach to start killing their fellow americans.

[Hitchens]

You guys really shouldn't spend so much time arguing with someone who lives with their grandma.

[Ahldagor]

crime is going down across the country, so how is it that paranoia is becoming seen as more rational?

[Black Jesus]

my pursuit of happiness includes the right to bear bazookas

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Black Jesus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the Court has not always interpreted the constitutional principle as absolute, and the proper extent of separation between government and religion in the U.S. remains an ongoing subject of impassioned debate.

GOD BLESS COURTHOUSES WITH THE 10 COMMANDMENTS AND POLICE STATIONS WITH CHRISTMAS TREES

So the Quran would be OK next to it? Or is it just your religion that's allowed?

Originally Posted by Black Jesus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are literally thousands of citizen militias. You like to quote Jefferson, maybe understand why he removed commas when ratifying the second amendment to give people the personal right to bear arms, regardless of militia involvement.

Eight different forms of the 2nd Amendment were ratified by the states. No one had a clue what they were ratifying and everyone is still arguing about it today.

Some states prohibit militias. Like California. And I hope you aren't suggesting that the various citizen militias are in any way organized, coordinated, or able to effectively ban together to defeat an attack from a tyrannical government.

Besides. We don't need no organimization. Merica!