Duration of Shared Grp XP Penalties

[YendorLootmonkey]

They prohibited multi-boxing to "promote group health" even though you could multi-box in classic. I don't see why they can't make another exception to remove the group XP penalty sharing to also "promote group health".

I get it... I rolled a hybrid. A ranger. I knew what I was getting into. My groupmates should not have to knowingly suffer for the challenge I took on myself.

The difference from classic is that 'knowingly' part. :P

[Malrubius]

Originally Posted by Charms [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually they removed them during Velious... And admitted they should have never been in the game in the first place... Your logic is classic.

I did not know that - my apologies. If they admitted that the penalties themselves were a bug (or broken design), then yeah, I would vote that it be fixed here too. And this is coming from a classic purist. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[purist]

Originally Posted by Toony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh I hope not. Seeing a lvl 50+ Troll SK back in the day was impressive, you knew they had persevered a lotta BS to get there.

Please don't make this some WoW'like Kumbaya lets all hold hands and give all the retards a trophy so no one feels left out kinda thing.

Actually, if you read my post, I was quite clear that all hybrid xp penalties should remain as they are. That's in terms of the penalty's effect on hybrid PCs themselves.

In fact, I think what I suggested was rather modest. What I said was maybe there could be some sort of relief for the non-hybrid group members who currently share the burden of their fellow hybrid groupie's class penalty if there was only one hybrid in the group. Allow me to spell it out, since you don't seem to understand. So, in a group with 1 Paladin/Ranger/Shadow Knight + and 5 other non-hybrids, the Paladin/Ranger/Shadow Knight still receives the full hybrid class xp penalty, but the rest of the group gets some kind of break since there's only one hybrid in the group. On the other hand, if the party has more than one hybrid, like a Paladin + Ranger + 4 others, then full shared hybrid class xp penalties remains in full effect.

Anyway, I was just brainstorming a random idea in order to forge some sort of compromise on the shared-group hybrid xp penalty issue.

[oldhead]

I always said I never wanted a 100% classic server... things like this is why.

Hybrid class exp should not be shared by group.

[Teeroyoyort]

I love how everyone is like. OMG we gota share that 40% penelty? When before you guys had it easy, and the hybrids really suffered to gain lvls. For example, when it took a non penelty, maybe even bonus character 100 kills to get a lvl, or less. That bard or ranger had to get 140 to get his lvl. Now it's like you need to kill 108 or so for everyone to lvl. It's fair, deal with it. It's not OMG game breaking. That manasong or sk tanking, or life saving LoH, in your group will more than cover those few extra kills. Not sure what rangers will add however ^-^.

[Thoughtseize]

Originally Posted by Teeroyoyort [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love how everyone is like. OMG we gota share that 40% penelty? When before you guys had it easy, and the hybrids really suffered to gain lvls. For example, when it took a non penelty, maybe even bonus character 100 kills to get a lvl, or less. That bard or ranger had to get 140 to get his lvl. Now it's like you need to kill 108 or so for everyone to lvl. It's fair, deal with it. It's not OMG game breaking. That manasong or sk tanking, or life saving LoH, in your group will more than cover those few extra kills. Not sure what rangers will add however ^-^.

And in Kunark what exactly are Knights going to offer that makes up for those extra kills? What is a Ranger ever going to offer that makes up for their penalty?

[soup]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They prohibited multi-boxing to "promote group health" even though you could multi-box in classic. I don't see why they can't make another exception to remove the group XP penalty sharing to also "promote group health".

I get it... I rolled a hybrid. A ranger. I knew what I was getting into. My groupmates should not have to knowingly suffer for the challenge I took on myself.

The difference from classic is that 'knowingly' part. :P

I gotta agree with this argument 100%

Promoting group health >>>>>>>>> 100% classic purism, and even the developers agree to at least some extent, given that they prohibit multiboxing.

[soup]

Originally Posted by Teeroyoyort [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love how everyone is like. OMG we gota share that 40% penelty? When before you guys had it easy, and the hybrids really suffered to gain lvls. For example, when it took a non penelty, maybe even bonus character 100 kills to get a lvl, or less. That bard or ranger had to get 140 to get his lvl. Now it's like you need to kill 108 or so for everyone to lvl. It's fair, deal with it. It's not OMG game breaking. That manasong or sk tanking, or life saving LoH, in your group will more than cover those few extra kills. Not sure what rangers will add however ^-^.

Yes, it's very fair that you knowingly pick a class with a exp penalty and then pass that burden on to other players who avoided those classes. Totally fair amirite?

[Toony]

Did you guys know there are EQ servers without the group experience penalties?

[soup]

Originally Posted by Toony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you guys know there are EQ servers without the group experience penalties?

Did you know statements like this are worthless and offer absolutely nothing to the discussion?