Cold Case Files: VP in Seb

[Godefroi]

We slapped Eccezan off the forum, yet Alarti makes TMO look equally as bad, I wonder why they still let him post lol

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't know the facts actually. You assume the facts. That is the issue. Who said Trak was going to Shroom room.... you did. I see no evidence that he did that. he could have gone to the Jugg tunnels, and the second time he definitely ran straight to ledge.

Running in a straight line to the back wall that is in direct trajectory to the shroom room is not evidence? I am sorry we can't see in that great detail through walls..

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[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Running in a straight line to the back wall that is in direct trajectory to the shroom room is not evidence? I am sorry we can't see in that great detail through walls..

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Was it direct though? You can tell me the exact angle he ran through the wall? You can also tell me he wasn't going to a tunnel prior to shroom room? With the way path nodes work you can tell me he wasnt heading to a similar node otw that is also a node otw to shroom room?

No.... you can't

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was it direct though? You can tell me the exact angle he ran through the wall? You can also tell me he wasn't going to a tunnel prior to shroom room? With the way path nodes work you can tell me he wasnt heading to a similar node otw that is also a node otw to shroom room?

No.... you can't

Nobody can without my magic halfling from the above post! You know just as well as I do mobs Fly over/under the world in direct paths all the time! Sometimes they hit a node and adjust, sometimes not. Its the BIGGEST problem I have seen in any project based on PEQ code. It was also a big issue in "classic eq". Randomly aggroing floors above/below you happened ALL THE TIME. In P99 you largely do not see this issue due to a great deal of work by the devs, but on larger monsters it can be very apparent.

Whats Trak's size rating on P99? PEQ has him listed as a Size 20, and his pathing can be wonky too.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody can without my magic halfling from the above post! You know just as well as I do mobs Fly over/under the world in direct paths all the time! Sometimes they hit a node and adjust, sometimes not. Its the BIGGEST problem I have seen in any project based on PEQ code. It was also a big issue in "classic eq". Randomly aggroing floors above/below you happened ALL THE TIME. In P99 you largely do not see this issue due to a great deal of work by the devs, but on larger monsters it can be very apparent.

Whats Trak's size rating on P99? PEQ has him listed as a Size 20, and his pathing can be wonky too.

Case Closed. The answer is unknowable.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Case Closed. The answer is unknowable.

A) Unknowable to your unassailable need of "proof"
B) See my map combined with available fraps and the logical reasoning in my "WHY" post to have more than circumstantial evidence of a crime commited. I charge TMO with first degree TRAK RAPE!

I really am seriously thinking about this magic halfling.

Also I want that trakanon size. He seems bigger here. I may load up my groups tonight and just manually check it vs PEQ size. It just sucks dragging toons around Seb.


Sigh i'm getting myself into a mechanics hole. Much like Dean Venture's Floyd hole!

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[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A) Unknowable to your unassailable need of "proof"
B) See my map combined with available fraps and the logical reasoning in my "WHY" post to have more than circumstantial evidence of a crime commited. I charge TMO with first degree TRAK RAPE!

I really am seriously thinking about this magic halfling.

Also I want that trakanon size. He seems bigger here. I may load up my groups tonight and just manually check it vs PEQ size. It just sucks dragging toons around Seb.


Sigh i'm getting myself into a mechanics hole. Much like Dean Venture's Floyd hole!

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if alarti is arguing that tmo didn't do it then it is confirmed tmo did it. case closed.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if alarti is arguing that tmo didn't do it then it is confirmed tmo did it. case closed.

I guess we could go that way.

Alarti just wants an argument, I gave him an argument.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A) Unknowable to your unassailable need of "proof"
B) See my map combined with available fraps and the logical reasoning in my "WHY" post to have more than circumstantial evidence of a crime commited. I charge TMO with first degree TRAK RAPE!

I really am seriously thinking about this magic halfling.

Also I want that trakanon size. He seems bigger here. I may load up my groups tonight and just manually check it vs PEQ size. It just sucks dragging toons around Seb.


Sigh i'm getting myself into a mechanics hole. Much like Dean Venture's Floyd hole!

There is still plenty of room for reasonable doubt. You even said yourself you can't prove your situation with the evidence provided. Without a magic halfing of course. Be reasonable.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is still plenty of room for reasonable doubt. You even said yourself you can't prove your situation with the evidence provided. Without a magic halfing of course. Be reasonable.

From the "evidence!" provided, i see a guild logging in after another guild wiped. They should have been given a clear shot(sportsmanship). Unless someone was ordered into the lair to train juggs away, there was zero evidence to support the fact that FE trained themselves. Due to the fact that the guild was just logging in and making groups, they would not have given an order to train juggs.

Clearly they received aggro from some source, at least twice. From non confirmed reports this happened for at least an hour after the video provided. I have stated previously 4 reasons for why another guild would want this to happen. I also doubt the fact that aggro was passed to someone doing King/Shrooms and they were blissfully unaware of what was going on. It is just not a very high percentage of probability based on the fact that the two guilds that farm King the most were farming Trakanon and PVP points at the time, and nobody exp's on shrooms/juggs. That logically leaves two scenarios

1. Intentional Training by a Rival Guild in the area.
2. Non-Intentional Training by a Rival Guild in the area.

Considering the above non confirmed, but certainly undisputed fact that this happened for an extended time frame as noted above. It points to Intentional.

I have used my monkey brain, developed by thousands of years of pattern recognition, hunting, and ability to fill in incomplete data segments to find a resolution to object movement/permanence. These are things my 1 year old son can do, with blocks and toys. You should be able to do this with a video game while you are in your late 60s, George Clooney/Peter Dinklage guy.

On another note:
Do you think If i gave sirken an IP I plan to use, the username/password and the explicit reason why I want to load some MQ2 up he wouldn't ban me for my magical halfling cameraman project? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]