Economy barrier for new players

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Lyra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Swish]

Originally Posted by dscar23 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I made 20k as a level 20 flipping gear in ec. Take advantage of the inflation. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is one of the main reasons we have had massive inflation, too many people jumping over each other to buy low/sell high... and then when the goalposts move, buy high/sell higher.

People talk about laziness on the server, I've had L10-12s ask me in EC for a 96% rez...and the same applies for buying/selling. Buyers need to be more savvy rather than just dropping 500pp too much on an item. There's no "I'll camp it myself" ethic on this server (Jboots included)... everyone wants to be lazy, and this is the result.

Granted this is hard for an untwinked warrior to accomplish, one might argue that starting off as an ungeared tank is a bad idea on this server (sadly) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People talk about laziness on the server, I've had L10-12s ask me in EC for a 96% rez...and the same applies for buying/selling.(

Lol that's just plain dumb. It will take longer to recover from res effects than to just fight for the exp back.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol that's just plain dumb. It will take longer to recover from res effects than to just fight for the exp back.

All hope in the EQ player is not lost.

[carthorn]

I just started and I was able to get 70pp at level 7 from looting scythes from dead spectres in feerrott the no one wanted (sell for 12pp each)

Which i was then able to buy some leather gear from the vendor ( like the good ole days) and eventually buy a cheap weapon from someone who was will to take less for the asking price because I was a new character.

[Pilgrimzero]

Reading this thread rand seeing "just go farm this and do this and makes lots of plat" reminded of the days when it was all fresh and no one knew any of this stuff.

Even coming back to a "1999 server" people still know how to game the system.

Yea you cant really "go home again" I just remember what it was like before peopel know when where and how to best get XP and cash. I wish that was something that could be emulated.

I know my new DE warriors like would be much enchanced by getting some fast cash and gear (lord know Ive died like 10 times and im only lvl 3) but we are here to experience EQ when it was at its greatest.

Lets not worry about how fast I can level and how fast I farm plat. Lets remember we are hear to experience EQ via 1999. Lets explore and group and kill zombie filled halls and great dragons.

The game is for fun and companionship, not gear and xp.

My best memories are of the fun times and the people I met (MMOs today arent very social) not fidnign the best spot to gain xp and loot.

Why have all the best gear so you can solo better, EQ wasnt meant for solo. EQ is about friends. Thats what I want. Thats what I had in the old days.

But dang would I like some leather pants [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] My poor naked blue butt.

[veejur]

Thanks for your replies everyone. There were quite a few assumptions made (not sure everyone read my full post) but I think the general gist makes sense. Yes, I rolled a gear dependent class (monk). Yes, I've since rolled a necro and enchanter since they are hopefully less gear dependent. No, it doesn't bother me when there are twinks in the group. I know I can level up to 40s and get much better gear at that point. I guess the question is - why is it that cheaper items are pretty much nonexistent? The vendor sell vs. time spent selling in tunnel argument makes a lot of sense to me, thank you for that insight.

My monk has 40p on her at level 26. This is due to weight restriction and just general low value of items she can carry. Making 200p is not "easy" when you don't have handouts. I'm seeing threads about "just drop 100p on this and 100p on this, cheap for starting out". Or "just loot some dead xxx mob or have someone let you loot yyy". I'm not sure if it's just a personality problem of mine (probably) but I have a hard time asking people for handouts. When I played an SK on live he started out a complete noob in Kunark but was able to afford some stuff in tunnel by the time he was lvl 15. Hopefully I'll fare better on my monk.

The primary goal of the post was to get a gauge for how people feel about the gaming going on in the economy. I'm hearing in general people are fine with it which I'll say is much easier to do once you are sitting on plat, but to each his own.

Thanks for all your replies. This was not meant to be a "vent" post, or to accuse or complain about anything. It's just an open discussion about the experience players new to this server are having that didn't start out on here pre-kunark.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Pilgrimzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even coming back to a "1999 server" people still know how to game the system.

SOME people know the game. Other people come to the forums and make threads whining about the economy because they don't know how to make a few hundred pp by level 20.

I really don't mean to point any fingers with this specific post, but wtf is up with all the whining about twinks and the economy and how p99 isn't every person's individual MMO paradise lately?

[Pilgrimzero]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SOME people know the game. Other people come to the forums and make threads whining about the economy because they don't know how to make a few hundred pp by level 20.

I really don't mean to point any fingers with this specific post, but wtf is up with all the whining about twinks and the economy and how p99 isn't every person's individual MMO paradise lately?

Im fairly new so I cant really add into much. I ahvent met and twinks or see any crazy prices for gear. I long for the day I leave Nek Forest.

I guess my point is, for ME Im not worried about that stuff. I just want to play old EQ and meet fellow fans. Broken economy, price gouging, twinks, dont really matter to me. I came here to play a game I love and am happy to meet like minded people (just wish I saw more people). I want to recapture that old nostalgia. Yea its not going to be 100%, it cant be, but for know Im having tons of fun, even when a darn Shadow Wolf jumps in on my current battle and gets me killed! Stupid forest!

I havent thought this muich about EQ in a decade. And Im loving every minute of it.

[Lyra]

Originally Posted by Pilgrimzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im fairly new so I cant really add into much. I ahvent met and twinks or see any crazy prices for gear. I long for the day I leave Nek Forest.

I guess my point is, for ME Im not worried about that stuff. I just want to play old EQ and meet fellow fans. Broken economy, price gouging, twinks, dont really matter to me. I came here to play a game I love and am happy to meet like minded people (just wish I saw more people). I want to recapture that old nostalgia. Yea its not going to be 100%, it cant be, but for know Im having tons of fun, even when a darn Shadow Wolf jumps in on my current battle and gets me killed! Stupid forest!

I havent thought this muich about EQ in a decade. And Im loving every minute of it.

You are going to do well here. This is my exact attitude.