My anti-military thread..

[Hasbinbad]

I made no statement about the rightness of the order. It is disingenuous of you to infer I was speaking of only wrongful orders and then argue against that position as if I was the one presenting it. That sir, is a straw man.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Tippett [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they didnt lose common sense, they never had any

i also highly doubt they were "ordered to do that"

they where wut i referenced earlier "handful of retards out of millions"

didnt those guys all get kicked out btw?

Just like Perun is the only SEQ user in late-model IB, and just like he only did it once, I'm sure you're right.

WTF, no.

Where there is one visible cockroach, there are millions in the walls.

[Hasbinbad]

Serious fucking question:

How many "individuals" need to commit atrocities before the organization becomes complicit?

[Hasbinbad]

Do 100 people need to be sexually assaulted? 1,000? 10,000?

How many children need to be incinerated in hospitals before I can blame the government without you patronizing me? 10? 100? 1,000?

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then explain Abu Ghraib

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those people are morans. there are morans everywhere. there are some pretty dumbass civilians, does that mean all civilians are dumbasses? cmon man, no matter what organization you find, there will always be someone doing something wrong.

[Hasbinbad]

What is the cost that is too much?

[Tippett]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just like Perun is the only SEQ user in late-model IB, and just like he only did it once, I'm sure you're right.

WTF, no.

Where there is one visible cockroach, there are millions in the walls.

your assuming again,

assuming past someone who actually experiences it daily,

what happened there was someone who was in charge was a dum fag, and no one had the balls to stand up to them.

its like an alignment of planets between spineless followers and toxic leaders, its in no way common that both of those circumstances line up in that way

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

those people are morans. there are morans everywhere. there are some pretty dumbass civilians, does that mean all civilians are dumbasses? cmon man, no matter what organization you find, there will always be someone doing something wrong.

Ya just like perun was the only bad apple and just like he only did it once, I'm sure the military is full of bronies and cat lovers and appreciators of ballet except those 2 people in that one picture.

[Tippett]

i can see those guys ballsacks too wtf,

i woulda punched the faggot in charge's face for exposing me to other dudes sacks

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Tippett [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your assuming again,

assuming past someone who actually experiences it daily,

what happened there was someone who was in charge was a dum fag, and no one had the balls to stand up to them.

its like an alignment of planets between spineless followers and toxic leaders, its in no way common that both of those circumstances line up in that way

Except that as technology advances, we find out about this shit more and more often.

So, how many is too many? I want you to put a number on it.