What is "Poofing" to Sirken?

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the rules are written. just because someone doesnt get caught doing it, doesnt mean its ok to do it until soemone gets caught. follow the rules. if u dont, get punished, otherwise why have fucking rules.

we could jsut go around saying hey, no one got caught doing this bullshit random exploit. i might as well do it until someone gets caught with no repurcussions....

you first.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's called ex post facto, "after the fact". The rule was not enforced previously, to start enforcing it out of the blue with no warning is not fair and unconstitutional. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Adriana, in VP, with the candlestick errrr stalking probe

[rsloans84]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's called ex post facto, "after the fact". The rule was not enforced previously, to start enforcing it out of the blue with no warning is not fair and unconstitutional. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The warning has been made, the GMs have come in and said it will be enforced, from this point forward be sure to report any you see and you can die a happy man knowing that GMs care.

The GMs dont care if its fair or not dont use MQ and u wont be banned

[quido]

I bet you zone and world logs could demonstrate clear instances of this happening. How about we comb through those and discipline everyone who has ever done it?

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the rules are written. just because someone doesnt get caught doing it, doesnt mean its ok to do it until soemone gets caught. follow the rules. if u dont, get punished, otherwise why have fucking rules.

we could jsut go around saying hey, no one got caught doing this bullshit random exploit. i might as well do it until someone gets caught with no repurcussions....

There is a different between not getting caught and having rule makers categorically leave something unenforced. When a rule making authority creates a rule and then refuses to enforce it, this creates custom and practice which, in many cases, has the same weight as the original written rule which was promulgated.

Also:

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This the root of the conversation: Why is aiuas (zeelot) allowed to circumvent server rules and policies?

There is no evidence of record that Zeelot was playing Aiaus. In fact, I'm look at a post on the TMO boards, right now, from Aiaus confirming that it was him and not Zeelot.

Please see: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...778#post900778

If you can furnish proof otherwise, please do so and this comment will be promptly withdrawn. Otherwise, please amend your language to exclude baseless claims.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Adriana, in VP, with the candlestick errrr stalking probe

Elethia, myself, and many TMO have consistently held that such ex post facto enforcements, were and are wrong.

See: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...5&postcount=81

[Metallikus]

oh you defend your lord so consistently, he must be impressed.

Jeremy, im sure many suspended players could argue that same thing. "why am i getting victimized? i only cheated once or twice, why dont you go catch all the other cheaters?"

combing thru logs to find other abusers? I'm all for it but it won't happen. There is indisputable proof in those fraps which can be verified by logs if need be. That particular instance must be punished if there is to be any credibility retained by this server's staff.

[quido]

you're being dense

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh you defend your lord so consistently, he must be impressed.

And you consistently make baseless claims while repeatedly failing to provide any substantiation.

I am not impressed.

[Galvatar]

Jesus...WHAT IS IT WITH YOU PEOPLE?

I'm not even in VP and I completely understand. The only people asking for "clarification" (well, okay, the majority of them on this thread) are trying to play sneakyfag with the rules so they can see that little window of a grey area they can exploit. I mean come on, you know what he asked you not to do, when the zookeeper marks a line next to the sleeping bear would you edge up as close as you can and ask "Is this okay?", take an inch, "Is this okay?", ad nausium?