Asking a favor from the two top guilds on the server

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Stormhowl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So we're back-peddling and changing the subject? This post of yours doesn't even respond to the fact that Sirken doesn't have the authority to decide the rules. Your original position was utterly refuted and now you're changing the subject/deflecting?

Just... wow.

i'm not deflecting an enforced rotation won't happen here. can add it to your signature or whatever you want to do. keep wasting your breath talking about it.

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

gluck with your gm enforced rotation. nice to see this thread go off topic asking for gm intervention instead of players working together.

Again, you dont have the scope I and others do of the servers end game rule set evolution. Players working together has not worked from 2009-2013. What exactly makes you think it ever will?

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i'm not deflecting an enforced rotation won't happen here. can add it to your signature or whatever you want to do. keep wasting your breath talking about it.

Well, you've laid several valid counterpoints out here, and so far when faced with the rebuttal you've changed your argument, eventually leading to you just flat out denying it. I dont mean to insult you, but thats the same method used by young earth creationists.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, you dont have the scope I and others do of the servers end game rule set evolution. Players working together has not worked from 2009-2013. What exactly makes you think it ever will?

I don't know that it ever will, but enforced rotations aren't happening and if they do this server will be the biggest carebear POS around. Congratulations on being in end game raiding longer than me on this emulated server. So you were in IB where was your "enforced rotations" threads when you guys were the top guild on the server? Please provide those links...

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, you've laid several valid counterpoints out here, and so far when faced with the rebuttal you've changed your argument, eventually leading to you just flat out denying it. I dont mean to insult you, but thats the same method used by young earth creationists.

Sirken holds more weight than any of commenting on this thread, period. He isn't for "enforced rotations" and while he is only part of the staff if you don't think they will take his opinion highly then there is no point in talking with you. Keep talking about these fairy tales and have a great night!

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know that it ever will, but enforced rotations aren't happening and if they do this server will be the biggest carebear POS around. Congratulations on being in end game raiding longer than me on this emulated server. So you were in IB where was your "enforced rotations" threads when you guys were the top guild on the server? Please provide those links...

I've always been adamant about a rotation. Even more so after joining IB and putting weeks of my life towards tracking mobs. Just because I worked within the system does not equate to me endorsing it.

Again you aren't attacking my argument. Your objection has been noted in the annals of time. Do you have any counterpoints to my argument?

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sirken holds more weight than any of commenting on this thread, period. He isn't for "enforced rotations" and while he is only part of the staff if you don't think they will take his opinion highly then there is no point in talking with you. Keep talking about these fairy tales and have a great night!

You've already used this one, and it was refuted, and then u changed your argument. Are we coming full circle already? Just form an coherent argument as to why an enforced rotation will not work and we can go from there. Until then, a flat out denial just speaks towards your bias towards a broken system.

[Stormhowl]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i'm not deflecting an enforced rotation won't happen here. can add it to your signature or whatever you want to do. keep wasting your breath talking about it.

Okay. So what are you doing about it other than not arguing the point being discussed? You can't accuse other people of "derailing" when you yourself engage in the same behaviour. It's hypocritical and it detracts from getting to the meat of the issue. There's a word for people who's calling cards are deflections and hypocrisy.

Are you planning to discuss the point at hand or continue to dance around circuitously like an AoE kiting bard on speed?

[Aaryonar]

Wait wait wait.

What about a rotation with bi-weekly repops that are fully open?

Does that solve both of our problems?

That's something I could get into, but still seriously unlikely that you'll get the playerbase behind it without someone pushing the envelope...

Again, in a perfect world, maybe. But just not realistic I guess.

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by Aaryonar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait wait wait.

What about a rotation with bi-weekly repops that are fully open?

Does that solve both of our problems?

That's something I could get into, but still seriously unlikely that you'll get the playerbase behind it without someone pushing the envelope...

Again, in a perfect world, maybe. But just not realistic I guess.

I endorse this idea. It would still generate drama, but at a much lower rate, which is better than that current status. Anything is really better than the current status.