Asking a favor from the two top guilds on the server

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2) you were on a hand holding rotation server where no competition existed

Please note, this is an honest question and not an attempt to troll.

Why does it seem that you actually have some level of contempt for PvE servers in which the player base cooperated with each other in order to compete against the game instead of each other? Every time you post on the subject it comes across as you believing that people who played that way were somehow doing it wrong.

[quido]

And it's not even about the gear - I just say that because it demonstrates the true breadth of my experience. I leveled a bard to 60 in December and January - Bruce to 60 a year before that - and despite having an epic on Redonk, I haven't nearly fulfilled my bardly aspirations. Loraen, do you really need ask what keeps us here? It's obvious. We love this game, we love the community, and it's fucking fun. I'm sorry that what we have here isn't exactly your cup of tea, but you seem to enjoy it in your own right. I'm sorry it's not exactly as your remember a dozen years ago. What keeps me here is wanting to be a badass in new ways. If I need to sleep, I sleep. Sometimes I press my limits but I've done that my whole life and I never played an MMO until this server. It's not the outrageous chore you people make it out to be - it's wonderful being a part of this guild and this server. Maybe you should start your own server if this one isn't exactly like you want. I'm not saying we shouldn't strive for some positive change, but if you think there's ever going to be an overall relaxed sense of competition here, you're dreaming.

If you want something.... TAKE IT!

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please note, this is an honest question and not an attempt to troll.

Why does it seem that you actually have some level of contempt for PvE servers in which the player base cooperated with each other in order to compete against the game instead of each other? Every time you post on the subject it comes across as you believing that people who played that way were somehow doing it wrong.

if thats the way i've come across, then i apologize, sincerely i do, because it was not my intention. after 18 months on staff i can not begin to tell you how many threads i've seen like this, and its frustrating to watch guilds continue to try the same thing while expecting different results each time.

and as i said before, theres more than one way to play eq (see: to skin a cat), and that doesnt make 1 way better than another way, it doesnt mean my way is better than yours or vice-versa. but at a certain point somebody has to try something else, or change will never happen.

if you are only specifically referring to my comments about PvE rotation servers, well, we will have to agree to disagree because i do not believe rotation servers had any actual competition. EQ it self is not hard. it just takes time and friends (ie: guildmates), waiting patiently in line for your turn, is simply not competing in my opinion. and as i said in a previous post, anybody whose raid experience is made up solely of being on a rotation server missed out on lots fun, excitement, competition, and imo a true feeling of accomplishment. downing a mob that u know other guilds are racing for and actively trying to kill will always be more rewarding than simply showing up and downing a mob. its like when you go hunting irl, some people go to those guaranteed to get a kill places, where they put u in a tree stand right where they have been safely feeding deer for 2 weeks so that the deer is use to going to that spot every day, and when he shows up you blow his brains out with a .336 rifle. that is simply not hunting, those people should not feel any sense of accomplishment when they down the deer. but the people that dont use bait, but instead use things like footprints in the snow, fresh poop, and removed tree bark to track, locate, and kill the deer, all while making sure the animal is not down wind from them, that warrants a feeling of accomplishment. for extra points in my book, use a bow (i dont use bows because i dont want to risk only wounding an animal, as that would be horrible in my opinion).

now all that being said, i'm simply the CSR GM and these are simply my thoughts/opinions. i do not dictate policy, or anything else, and i especially do not dictate things to Rogean or Nilbog. this is not my server, i do not make the rules. i do however enforce the rules that are put forth, and i also will try to explain the staff's position or reasoning on certain subjects. sometimes i offer my advice or thoughts on a subject in a thread, but thats all they are.

if you think my thoughts/opinions/advice/contributions to this, or any other thread are garbage (and you have every right to think so if thats how u feel), u can feel free to disagree with me, or completely ignore my posts. after 5-6 years of playing/raiding live, 2 years on other EQemu servers, and 3 years on P99, i feel i have seen enough to offer valid and substantial opinions on the subject.

hope that answered your questions/concerns

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Sirks