Asking a favor from the two top guilds on the server

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i wonder what he meant by this. can you claim a raid mob as a camp if your entire force sits there for the entire 96+ hour window?

Sirken also referred to forming a megazergguild as "thinking outside of the box."

So yeah. Lol.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by nebulus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree with sirken here.. this is nothing more than asking for hand outs.

No, this would be asking for a free hand out:

Can I play on your server for free?

[quido]

Hey I can't really speak for my guild, but I can give you my input as an individual.

I have no interest in any sort of cooperation that involves guaranteed mobs for any guild that has killed them before more than a couple times. If people want to be nice and offer 1 out of X mobs for new folks, you would have my support. But anything that is this + any amount of rotation is totally out of the question imo. I'm down to be nice out of the altruistic goodness of my heart, but that stops after two or three kills on the same target. At that point, it's a race. Sorry, but if everyone could have as much of everything as they wanted, this place would suck.

Let's hear a realistic suggestion; here's one I've made before: one out of five pops of EVERY raid mob is to be left up for guilds that haven't killed it for at least 24 hours.

Maybe in the event that the mobs are left up, FE and TMO roll for engage? Sounds dumb but I have a feeling that whole situation would get really annoying really quickly - "UU ENGAGED 2 SECOND ERLY" - BDA doesn't get a roll, sorry jerks you have no place in this world.

Counter-proposals?

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry, but if everyone could have as much of everything as they wanted, this place would suck.

The problem is this place does suck (end game anyway) because only a few have as much of everything as they want and they'd still deny it to others, otherwise these threads wouldn't keep popping up, unless of course you join a zerg and stand in line for your pixels, which I cannot see how that is the more satisfying option to you.

[Woahnelly]

Nobody is saying give up trak, give up VP. The fact is that the way that TMO competes is a total fucking joke. You cannot expect a guild to camp a full raid force of alts at every in demand raid target. Get a grip and get over yourself. Denying end game targets like VP and trak is uderstandable. Killing inny just so others cannot get their epics is screwed up and wrong. I'm sure 99% of you are adults, grow up!

Rotation is not a handout, a handout is a handout.

[Tierael]

This is all null and void unless 2 people agree to something - Zeelot and Sloan. Ultimately, this is up to them. I have seen Sloan's opinion's. Does Zeelot have one to share? Or is it just the simplest answer of them all?

Again, asking only for 1 or 2 raid targets, per week, to not be tracked/engaged by TMO/FE. Out of, how many?

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey I can't really speak for my guild, but I can give you my input as an individual.

I have no interest in any sort of cooperation that involves guaranteed mobs for any guild that has killed them before more than a couple times. If people want to be nice and offer 1 out of X mobs for new folks, you would have my support. But anything that is this + any amount of rotation is totally out of the question imo. I'm down to be nice out of the altruistic goodness of my heart, but that stops after two or three kills on the same target. At that point, it's a race. Sorry, but if everyone could have as much of everything as they wanted, this place would suck.

Let's hear a realistic suggestion; here's one I've made before: one out of five pops of EVERY raid mob is to be left up for guilds that haven't killed it for at least 24 hours.

Maybe in the event that the mobs are left up, FE and TMO roll for engage? Sounds dumb but I have a feeling that whole situation would get really annoying really quickly - "UU ENGAGED 2 SECOND ERLY" - BDA doesn't get a roll, sorry jerks you have no place in this world.

Counter-proposals?

I'm all for competition; what sucks is the FORM the competition takes on this server. Just make the zones PVP when the bosses are up imo.

[quido]

Sometimes it is really stupid. But sometimes it is really awesome.

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Almost all the time it is really stupid for everybody else. But most of the time it is really awesome for my guild.

[quido]

Is FE not having fun?